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To those that have not studied about it and understand it. It only seems convoluted.

No, it says in 1 Corinthians 15 that death will be swallowed up in victory for the redeemed. We will exchange corruption for incorruption. It doesn't say that death is no more. You are still using a circular reasoning methodology to associate it with Revelation 20:4. What your reasoning...

That passage in 1 Thessalonians 4 has nothing to do with a horizontal "caught up". If we are going to let the text speak for itself, it can only mean "up", not sideways. You are using a circular argument from a faulty presupposition.

You will grab a verse here and there the are not directly linked to the idea you are trying to explain. There is nothing in 1 Corinthians 15 that directly ties it to the end of the 1000 years. You have done that, but the passage doesn't show that link. It does show the period most likely...

The big problem I see with that idea is that Yeshua and the redeemed Body of Messiah will rule over the nations with a rod of iron. That implies being harsh and quenching wrongdoing quickly. Now, some of you guys are talking about we all have nothing to do with a resurrection or eternal...

Oops.. my bad!

How are they proved worthy? What is the set of criteria?

Except Lazarus was never called a saint. I am not sure it is sound exegesis to equate Lazarus, Jairus' daughter, or any other singular individual that was raised, with the resurrection of a group specifically referred to as saints shortly after Yeshua's resurrection. It can be done, but...

Matthew 25:46 (NKJV) And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life." Mark 9:43-44 (NKJV) hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched— 44 where 'Their worm does not die And the fire is not quenched.' What part of "everlasting" is not "everlasting"...

So you then believe in the concept of Annihilationism? Maybe some form of doctrine that the ungodly are destroyed forever. No eternal punishment for the ungodly? The argument is probably more over semantics. All people have immortality. Every person conceived will live forever. But it is...

But there is no textual evidence that those OT saints resurrected in Matthew 27 ever died again. That is pure conjecture with no scriptural support. Many of the early church writers who knew the Apostles or were in close association with those who did, they wrote that those saints of Matthew...

In all fairness, we kinda tackled Keraz's choice of words. It is likely that he was meaning eternal life as opposed to immortality.

From what I glean from scripture is that the redeemed already have eternal life, or immortality. No judgement required in terms of eternal life, only judgement to determine rewards for faithful service. Sure, our present bodies are not immortal, but we are. These bodies are just temporary...

So, I glean from this statement in the context of your post that you see no difference between righteous dead and unrighteous dead. I am not sure that lines up with scripture.

And you came to that conclusion even after this..... 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 (NKJV) For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be...

What is it about you that wants to be so contentious? It was a simple question to find out how you determined that those resurrected saints of Matthew 27 died again. The text is silent, but we do have writings from those who were closely associated with the Apostles or the students of the...

That is a alteration of what I said. I said there are multiple resurrections mentioned in scripture.

Oh come now. That verse makes no mention of a "rapture to heaven" as being a what Paul was writing to Timothy about. You have imposed your own idea of what is true or not on the text based on your own understanding. Not very good exegesis. Paul has been talking about immorality and...

Would you be so kind as to show us the passage that says those resurrected saints of Matthew 27 died again? Is that what you were implying, that they died again? Again, I could be taking what you wrote the wrong way.

Are you certain the New Jerusalem will be forever in the air? I seemed to have gotten that idea from the wording of your post. I could be wrong in what it seemed you were stating.