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    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    I'm taking it into consideration.
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    A Day Begins At Sunrise

    BiblioC, Great logic, you said: "If the first day started in evening then the difficulty is there is no begining/start of the night/evening/darkness because the darkness was "eternal" before the light was created." ROTFL. I thought of it often myself but wouldn't have expressed it as well as...
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    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    Oz, The commentaries could be right, or Romans 6:3-4 could be an simile. A simple comparison of what water baptism does in regards to the crucifixion. We are symbolically dunked into death, then taken out of the water into life. Christ was killed and brought back to life. In other words, these...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    Good idea Joyful, You don't need the teachings of church businesses, you need your Bible, the Holy Ghost, and prayer. Understanding a particular denomination's theology can help one avoid being caught in a mindtrap. But you can also avoid that mindtrap by staying away from them. That's what the...
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    TWILIGHT VERSUS BETWEEN THE EVENINGS

    To anyone who may be looking into this thread. I've already said it in two other threads. I chose not to respond to GerhardEbersoehn any more. His posts in the other threads have become increasingly bizarre and incoherent. His last contention in this thread - that the 15th of a month begins at...
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    Sabbath-Keeping

    The SDA has a problem with what the RCC has done here as well. So, don't you find it strange that the SDA will still use the RCC calendar to find their sabbath every week? They don't even know when the sabbath is. I find that rather hypocritical for a church to know so little about the sabbath...
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    'NT Texts with regard to the 'three days and three nights' of Jesus' Last Passover'

    For those who may be following this discussion: I have chosen to not respond any further with GerhardEbersoehn. There is no profit for the Body of Christ in doing so. He refuses to use Scripture to support his positions and when he does his exegesis is incorrect. Then when I use Scripture he...
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    A Day Begins At Sunrise

    A flat out lie on your part. Where is your Scriptural support? I will not answer you any more. You continue to speak with forked tongue and now your are close to blaspheming. I do not want to be responsible for stirring your emotions so that you feel it necessary to blaspheme to make yourself...
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    A Day Begins At Sunrise

    You haven't made yourself clear. It sounded to me as if you were inventing a new doctrine that the lamb wasn't allowed to eat. But posts 30 & 31 are further examples of you not making yourself clear. I can't respond to that which is not written with clarity. Besides, once again you have not...
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    A Day Begins At Sunrise

    BiblioC, Some times the Bible can be approached with absolute precision as far as times and dates go, but depending upon the wording sometimes estimates are quite adequate and even meant to be so. For example, "in the midst of the week". We could try and be dogmatic and say that must be...
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    A Day Begins At Sunrise

    BiblioC, Your second concern was - according to judaeo-christian jesus is the passover lamb who should be sacrificed on same day (and can't have meal before sacrifice). There is no Biblical support for this position. I have searched for it. If you have a Scripture that requires this, I need to...
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    TWILIGHT VERSUS BETWEEN THE EVENINGS

    Gerhard, And where is your Scripture to support this? zeke25
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    A Day Begins At Sunrise

    BiblioC, You said: "However one major difficulty : according to the synoptic gospels the "passover" meal was the day/eve before he was crucified." Zeke25 reply: Actually, this is a common misinterpretation of the gospel accounts. The key phrase is "when they killed the passover". When this...
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    'NT Texts with regard to the 'three days and three nights' of Jesus' Last Passover'

    Gerhard, There is no "time logic" about the crucifixion. It is what it is. Here is an excerpt from one of my teachings that gives a little more information about time markers. Since I'm the one who has coined the phrase, and no one else uses it, then it might be wise to go with it. Oh, there...
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    A Day Begins At Sunrise

    BiblioC, I will answer your last four questions. But I might not be able to finish until tomorrow, I'll see how my time goes. zeke25
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    'NT Texts with regard to the 'three days and three nights' of Jesus' Last Passover'

    Bibliocentrist, I'm not ignoring you. I did address your concerns in another thread. Hang in there. God has answers for you. zeke25
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    'NT Texts with regard to the 'three days and three nights' of Jesus' Last Passover'

    Gerhard, I'm not sure what all this means to you. Maybe you've been reading my stuff and you massage it a little thinking that will mask it. Anyway my Bible doesn't have a 22nd chapter in Mark, possible you meant Mk 14:12. And who cares with Mark, Luke, and John have "bread" added. It doesn't...
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    'NT Texts with regard to the 'three days and three nights' of Jesus' Last Passover'

    Gerhard, As far as Mt 28:1 is concerned (seems to me I already answered this somewhere), the only thing you have correct is "Ὀψὲ δὲ σαββάτων, τῇ ἐπιφωσκούσῃ εἰς μίαν σαββάτων". KJV 1611, “In the end of the Sabbath as it (the end of the Sabbath) began to dawn towards the First Day of the...
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    'NT Texts with regard to the 'three days and three nights' of Jesus' Last Passover'

    Gerhard, Since raised and risen or whatever bothers you, let's call it "rose from the dead". This is truly straining out a gnat but swallowing a camel. As far as evening/even, you obviously haven't even read the thread. Go, find a Scripture you disagree with and challenge it with a better...
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    'NT Texts with regard to the 'three days and three nights' of Jesus' Last Passover'

    Gerhard, Okay I went there. This is the first thing written: Preparation of Passover First Day Without Leaven 14th Nisan Thursday. This is a gross error. The last day of preparation for Passover is not Nisan 14, it is Nisan 13. Nisan 13 is Thursday, Nisan 14 is Friday Passover. (Don't...