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Thank you for such a kind and gracious act. :)

ewq1938, The Barrd gives you a sincere, truthful, and accurate answer. So, what do you respond with? Proof of your biblical illiteracy. Your post is not even worthy of a response. If you want to get serious let me know. In the meantime I've lost all patience with you. I cannot type an entire -...

Doug, At the end of the last post you said that. Now if you want to change horses in mid-stream and talk about a baptism other than water baptism then please explain yourself. Explain what this other baptism is and tell us if you think it pertains to the Nicene Creed. Perhaps your icon shows a...

Doug, You said,"Because it seems to me you're the only one mentioning calvanism in this whole thread from the beginning." Post #35 was for you too. If a person shows himself to be a Calvinist and wants to make that a point of discussion, then I may go there with him. But I'm not going to grade...

Hello The Barrd, Welcome to the forum. To bring you up to date a little: No one here in this thread is disagreeing with being baptized. According to the opening post (OP), the discussion is whether or not one's sins are forgiven by undergoing water baptism. The Nicene Creed states that it does...

Sorry Aspen, I'm not trying to put you on overload. My prayers are with you. But consider, that some of your disorientation might be an attack of the enemy in the form of simple word or doctrine definitions, such as my brief explanation in post #31. If the enemy of our souls can have us dizzy...

Doug, Staying on topic is always desirable, but sometimes a tangent is necessary. Without the knowledge of a person's theology you can dialogue all day long with no hope of reaching any type of mutual understanding. It was very important for me to point out: "So, you see, we are talking apples...

Aspen, What I find extremely hypocritical is the stance that all of the Calvinists on this post are taking. “Unconditional Election” means they can do absolutely nothing to contribute to their salvation. If they do, then they are infringing upon the sovereignty of God. They can’t even say “I...

Hang in there aspen. I think you're doing great. zeke25

bornagain, You're absolutely correct on both accounts. I am wasting a lot of time here and "does baptism alone forgive you of sins" is what the discussion should be about. But the opponents came out of the woodwork when I mentioned Calvinism. After all the Calvinists love the Nicene Creed. They...

theogrit, It all sounds good until we get to "the redemption of His people". Calvinists have a different take on who "His people" are. Calvinist also have an anti-biblical definition about who is covered by the Blood of Christ and what it accomplished. As we all should know, the pre-picks have...

DP said: Hence the creed of the catholic church declaring themselves a, or the apostolic church. zeke replies: That’s fine for the RCC. If they want to use the Nicene Creed. But the group I was dealing with was labeling itself Calvinistic not RCC. Why would they use the RCC Nicene Creed...

ewq1938, How many times do you want to go around this block? I was unequivocal, the Bible does not teach that baptism forgives or removes sins. Only the shed Blood of Yahoshua can do that. You are vying against a core doctrine of the faith. Without the doctrine of the shed Blood of Christ being...

avoice, Of course I disagree with most of that which you said. avoice said: The sacrifice continued unabated after Christ died until 70 A.D. zeke25 replies: Yes, the physical sacrificing did continue, but it no longer carried any spiritual impact and was no longer necessary. In fact, it had...

ewq1938, John did as all of the Old Testament prophets did, he called his people to repentance. And he used the symbolism of baptism in which to do it. But he was also preparing the way for Christ and said in Matthew 3:11 KJV, “I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh...

theogrit, So, you disagree with my slant on Calvinism. What is my slant, because I must have missed it? I did not write a slant. I told a true story about a whacko Bible study and church (that just happened to be Calvinistic). It could have been Methodist or anything else. So, we have one...

Hammerstone, I could quote a lot of Scriptures that explain that which our salvation is dependent upon, but I’m sure you know them already. But I will accommodate if it becomes necessary. One thing for sure, salvation is not dependent upon water baptism. For a moment, let’s look at 1 Peter...

The NIcene Creed (381) states: "We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins." Baptism has never forgiven sins. The Blood of Christ washes sins away, not baptismal water. Therefore the Nicene Creed is not Christian. A few years back I attended a Calvinist bible study at the...

The NIcene Creed (381) states: "We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins." Baptism has never forgiven sins. The Blood of Christ washes sins away, not baptismal water. Therefore the Nicene Creed is not Christian. A few years back I attended a Calvinist bible study at the...

Passover and circumcision began at Sinai and ended at the Cross huh??? Circumcision began with Abraham (Gen 17:10). Passover began in the Land of Goshen, Friday Abib 14, when God changed Abib to be the 1st month of the year. Sinai was not in the picture during these two events and doctrines...