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Gerhard, He was NOT crucified on the 14th (a Friday), He was crucified on the 13th (a Thursday). He was taken down after sundown on the 13th and buried that night prior to sunrise the 14th. You're using an invalid calendar too. You cannot use the current Rabbinic Judaism calendar and back it up...

When I use Saturday and Sunday, etc. I'm not giving any credit to pagan gods. I'm merely making it easier to talk about the days of a week in our modern times. If I start saying the 1st day of the week, the 2nd day of the week, etc. rather than saying Sunday or Monday I may not be any more...

rstrats, I just posted this material in the thread "A Day Begins At Sunrise", in answer to a person's question. I thought I would share it here with you. Mt. 12:40 sets the stage for crucifixion week. When Christ tells us 3D/3N it must occur in that order. The first day of His death must be in...

Bibliocentrist, Mt. 12:40 sets the stage for crucifixion week. When Christ tells us 3D/3N it must occur in that order. The first day of His death must be in the day time. Count ahead 3D/3N and you can see that He must rise from the dead during the third night. He cannot rise from the dead after...

Gerhard, A day begins at sunrise. It hasn't gone any where. Saturday night precedes Sunday sunrise. The women were going to the tomb on Saturday night and they arrived on Saturday night, not on Sunday morning. In your upsidedown world, the women would be arriving at the tomb on Sunday night...

Gerhard, Why would I want to read a whole book of several hundred pages by Ebersohn? I’ve picked out a couple of sentences from two different pages. They are replete with errors. From page 25 he is talking about Mt. 28:1. It does not say “In the end of the Sabbath” like he makes such a big to...

Bibliocentrist, God wrote the Bible so that His children could understand it while anyone else would find it confusing. The problem arises when His children go to fallen men to learn about the Bible instead of going to Him. Learning about time markers in the Bible helps a whole lot about...

DP, DP said: "In creation, evening and morning was the first second so on and so forth day." zeke: You have not looked at the instructions in Genesis in a chronological manner. Therefore, you have fallen for the deception that millions of others have throughout the centuries. Evening and...

Bibliocentrist, The Bible has never taught a sundown day start. It is the Rabbinic Jews, circa 300 and later, who teach a sundown day start. Please refer to post 5 and then follow it to the posts on "A Day Begins At Sunrise". During all Biblical times, from Genesis through Revelation a day...

GerhardEbersoehn, If you are willing, go to the next form "Bible Study Forum", scroll down the first page until you find the thread "A Day Begins At Sunrise". If you can find a valid Biblical objection to each and every text proof that a day start is sunrise, then please let me know. I have...

Gerhard, In order for us to have an unconfused discussion, we will need to agree on what the Bible teaches about a day start. The Bible teaches that a day starts at sunrise. To mimic king Aragorn: What say you? Zeke25

Gerhard, This is what this thread is all about. To show that twilight is after sunset and therefore the passover sacrifice must take place prior to sunset, most likely about mid-afternoon. Then the roasting of the lamb begins and the sun sets. Then it is still the 14th and the feasting on the...

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I always enjoyed one pastor's comment on this story of the woman caught in adultery. He said, "How do you do that? It takes a lot of sneaking around." He was purposefully not flattering to those who brought her forth.

I believe that is exactly what the Nicene Creed is declaring. I've come across whole congregations that believe that water baptism forgives sins. Some that are posting here believe that too. That's why I started the thread and that is the error I'm trying to address. You were taught correctly...

The Barrd, Sometimes it is refreshing to see a woman's viewpoint as she sees through the eyes of another woman. Indeed she was full of love for her Messiah. zeke25

Doug, It sounds as if you are not an enthusiastic creed supporter - no matter how it is worded. Whole denominations declare they are non-credal. One pastor I met, that was his second sentence to me: “We are non-credal”. Yes, many creeds could be made. I’m sure the few that are still around...

HammerStone, The vow that Paul took was a pledge or a promise to man or to himself. An oath would normally invoke a pledge to deity. But in some circles deity might be expanded to include a king rather than God. Hebrews 6:17 & 7:21 were solemn promises made by God to insure that man understood...

Hammerstone and Doug_E_Fresh, Why is it that everytime someone writes something worth reading and responding to, that I'm in a great time pinch? Many good points on your part Hammerstone, points that I will seriously consider. However, there is way too much to be said that I cannot address at...

Doug, Nice presentation and I think that it is beneficial to the thread. However, I do not believe that is what the makers of the Nicene Creed (381) meant at all when they wrote it. It would be nice if that is what they meant. But they did not explain it that way. I’ve seen far too many...