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(preciousmessage;22715) "Logic" is a human response, (human reasoning). Christ does say He is the "Saviour of all men," He does not lie. We need not explain His words away. Christ doesn't lie but that's not evern part of this topic. Do you deny that God created the laws that govern our...

(bruv;22701) Im interested in the present day Christian understanding regarding this.Time is relative, and is created by God. Therefore the Almighty is not bound by the limits of time.Questions such as "where did God come from" aren't valid as it implies God is restricted by time.So what we...

So far so good. I asked two questions and received the following answers.Is Jesus Christ God? Yes.Is Christ fully God, equal with the Father? Yes.My next question…Is the will of God the Son in accordance with the will of God the Father and God the Holy Spirit?

Sorry Jake, ‘mercy seat’ is only found in Hebrews 9. The three transliterated Greek words are: hilaskomai (Strongs Greek number 2433) Used in Luke 18:13 (where the RSV translates it with ‘be merciful’) and Heb 2:17 (‘to make expiation’). hilasmos (Strongs Greek number 2434) Used in I John 2:2...

(kriss;22706) Of course Yes if you have seen the Son you have seen the Father Thank you for allowing me to continue with the didactic line of questioning. Is Christ fully God, equal with the Father?

(thesuperjag;22697) I know exactly where you are going with this. The problem is not Yahshua being able to save every single souls...because He can. The problem with this is MANKIND refuse to believe what the Word of God says and won't return to the Father in His rightous ways as Yahshua is the...

Hi kriss, do you believe that Jesus Christ is God? [don't worry, I'm going somewhere with this]

(kriss;22659) Why dont you show me what scripture I slipped in I gave you 2 peter 3 If you read 2 Peter 3 as it stands, without thinking of ages, gaps, or Bullinger, you'll soon notice that Ockham's Razor works very well in this instance. There is no need to construct a super structure of...

If you can't prove what you believe drown me out...right...:naughty:You haven't and can't prove three stages or ages or whatever you call it. Your presupposition, the foundation for your argument is based on Bullingerism and not the Bible...no matter how much Scripture you quote. You've gone...

How can I show you that you're slipping Scripture in between other Scripture out of context in a way you'll understand?

(kriss;22650) No your post was deleted because you broke the rules and attacked everyone personally How would anyone judge if I attacked you personally or not if you remove my posts?I understand how personal theology can be, but offering a historical look as well as a Biblical critic of your...

Ok, I disagree with kriss so my posts are deleted. Fine.jm

"He is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world" Propitiation means, “the act of appeasing wrath and conciliating the favor of an offended person; the act of making propitious.” That would mean all of God’s wrath has been appeased...

Jag, where did you study Hebrew and Greek, to what level did you study?

(kriss;22593) Its not Bullinger its scripture have you read 2 Peter 3: there are three world ages one past one now, and one two come be not ignorant of this fact. 5 But it is hid from them willing this thing, that heavens were before, and the earth of water was standing by water, by God's word...

(n2thelight;22512) To understand who the Elect are and why they were chosen you have to go back to the first earth age. :eek: What in the world are you talking about? Put down your Bullinger Bible and step away...hands where I can see'em...This is a perfect example of twisting, pick up a Bible...

Thank you for the reply Jake, I appreciate the effort put forth as it allows us to continue this dialog. (preciousmessage;22312) Hi J.M. I have read your reply on predestination. Basically the idea is "He loved and died only for a special group known as "the elect." The idea is that God has...

(preciousmessage;22043) I don't think you were necessarily "unclear," it's just that the issues of the Bible are not reconciled with a few brief points, ... Jake I agree but I was addressing only a few brief points...:bible:

Yes, thank you.

Jake, forgive me for being unclear. The fall resulted in a total death, meaning both spiritually AND physically.