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    Did God the Father or Jesus create angels

    All MY discussions is from KJV Lets start with Heb 1 4..7 ... these versus implies that Jesus was the first creation but that God the Father created the angels. We could imply many many other things from those versus but I won't do this at this time. And again heb 2.7 implies that Jesus did...
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    When were angels created?

    No. As ref in Rev 3.14. Jesus was the first creation of God.
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    Man's body not shaped in the image of God

    I disagree. We are the literally children of the living God. We are divine beings capable of being joint heirs with Jesus and sharing his throne. Now with that said. The apostles did not recognize Jesus on multiple meetings with Jesus after the ressurection. So there is a change but we do...
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    Was Jesus learning to become like his Father?

    Wow. Still holding on to mans traditions. Please show me where Jesus himself said he was God. First off the in John 10.32..36 Jesus stated he was the Son of God. And the scripture can NOT be broken. Please read the actual words of the Bible instead of imitating the words from the pulpit. In...
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    How many times did the apostles receive the Holy Spirit

    Not sure. The John quote was probably written ~50-60 yrs past the event. So as it is inspired doctrine we are left to judge John's word or Jesus's words. But as the previous post states. We all need practice in walking in the HS continuously
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    How many times did the apostles receive the Holy Spirit

    So why did they need it 3 times
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    How many times did the apostles receive the Holy Spirit

    The 3 versus I considered 1. when they were sent out with no purse or script to heal and preach to gospel in matt 10.1 2. After the resurrection in John 20.22 3. At the day of Pentecost
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    Did Jesus raise hiself from the dead or did God yhe father raise him

    Is the Bible contradicting for who raised Jesus. John 10.18 says he did but what do you think
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    Was Jesus learning to become like his Father?

    My answer is yes. Answered with the KJV. First Jesus is the first creation of God in rev 3.15 and col 1.15. Then attested to in John 1.1..3. Jesus received the HS at his baptism in matt 3.16. Then as the heir of God in heb 1.2 (please read heb 1.1-5) Then during his ministry here on earth...
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    How likely was the first day a 24-hour period?

    Im a new earth guy. So each day was 100pyrs so that puts us at 13k+ yrs And did the 24hr periods start before the flood
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    When were angels created?

    When angels came into being is a hard one. I would think that God delegates as Christ did to his disciples. Are angels a creation of God the Father or of Jesus. Heb 1.6 So that they existed as things were being created . Refs. Heb 1.2, 4, 7, 2.7
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    Wow. Let's start with John 10.34..36. Even here he states the scripture can not be broken. Then since God can not be tempted or he is a liar. Titus 1.2 how is Jesus God since he was tempted 40 days in the wilderness. So this verse refuses the argument that Jesus is God incarnate. Jesus also...
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    No one has ever seen God. Really?

    The trouble with these blogs is that we (even me) don't read thru all the thread so we don't see the things already written. So rude is either I don't add scripture reference to every post or you don't read the history of the thread: i postulate that both are probably our laziness. But try...
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    No that isn't straight forward proof. John cal Jesus God. And at the time the book of John was written Jesus had been ressurected and all power was given him. But in Jesus own words, before the resurrection Jesus refused to call himself God. Jesus is/was the heir to the throne of God. And...
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    If your still quoting John 1.1. 3. Those aren't Jesus's words. Those are Johns. In John 20 28. Thomas called him God. And yes at that time he was due to Matt 28.18. Also. Please remember that the book of John wasn't completed til around 90ad. I also believe that is why we don't have 4...
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    You have taken the scripture interpretation to be fat. That is another tradition of man from he 8 or 9th century. I stand on what my Savior says. And if we want to split hairs. The book of revelation was dictated whereas the book of John is inspired. That eats it was his words that John...
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    But again. That is not what the scripture says. Jesus himself states that he is the first creation of God. And Jesus himself says he is not God. And yes he is the Messiah. I have to believe the words on the page over the theories of man.
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    Jesus was heir. So he grew up to be God, Jehova. As we are destined to do the same
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    Ok let's start with John 1.1. In the beginning was the Word, What is the vers in the Bible that backs that up. Rev 3.14. Jesus is the first creation of God. and the Word was with God, Yes Jesus was with God As he made the heavens and the earth. and the Word was God. Yes. Jesus was heir...
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    I would say Jesus is the Messiah. But not God the Father. And if you want to use the word Incarnate then that's ok. But please rise up to what and who the Bible says you are. In Jesus's own words in John 10 34..36. And he states that the scripture can not be broken. Also remember that...