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Jeff, you have chosen to ignore all sound reason against the Theory of Evolution. God knows why that is. If you want "evidence" there is plenty out there, but what you lack is faith. If you had it, you wouldn't be in this possision. That is just the way it is. God will lead you to the...

Apostasy IS in the Bible, in a number of places and it means to reject Christ, to turn away. We have done this before, we do not agree. You are not going to change my mind and I'm not going to change yours, so why try. And putting all your words in large print will not make a difference. What...

I choose to please God by using the reason and intellect You have chosen unwisely. God has plenty of reason and intellect.It is impossible to please God without faith. Then again, maybe that too is just a metephore...

(tomwebster;57110) How long are we going to beat this topic? Probably till the Lord comes again

True, but Jesus also said to circumsize our hearts. The outward act was moreso for the parent, not the child, right?I'm not against infant baptism... at this point... just so long as nobody thinks that it has any effect on the child's salvation. That happens when they choose to receive Jesus...

(thesuperjag;57095) Turn away from God and believing in a Lie is another thing. One day, you will find out. Ditto.

We have all heard someone say, or perhaps said it ourself that, "I fell in love."Is it a Biblical concept to "fall in love?" What is it meant to "fall in love" and is there a better way we should approach love, rather than a collapse of sorts? Is it a good approach to understand and teach that...

It has to do with people trying to think we earn our salvation, but without actually saying it.

(jeffhughes;57088) Of course not - you and I both know that. But the people back then sure thought it did. Just like the people now think that evolution does... Just because people *thought* something and you *think* this is the same thing... they aren't. The THEORY OF EVOLUTION and what people...

You have much more of a "blind faith" approach then I do, then. Had you lived in Galileo's time, you likely would have been one of those who condemned his theory as untrue, since it apparently "contradicted" God's Word. But of course, we know that they were right, because as you say, it is an...

We have been called by God. We didn't love Him, He first loved us.1 John 4:13-19 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit. And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. Whosoever shall confess that...

(tomwebster;57070) I was quoting "super's" post. Oh, so it wasn't anything that is actually found in the Word of God. I thought so, but was just making sure.:study:

(tomwebster;57058) Agree, tree, we will agree to disagree also."But however confusions cause people to lead astray... can cause them to lose salvation...if they decided to reject Christ for men" = apostasy Where is that found? What is that quote?

(thesuperjag;57052) No one said it is. As God does not give everybody the same amount of Wisdom. Works follows us. But however confusions cause people to lead astray... can cause them to lose salvation...if they decided to reject Christ for men... OSAS... well you know what I'm going to say...I...

(jeffhughes;57047) I find it odd here that you say you would "try and mold God's Word around that understanding," and then you turn around and say this is an "error." Are you calling it an error because you don't believe it is true (in reality), or because you don't feel it is the correct thing...

Well, we digress from the thread since we aren't answering the question about sex before marriage at this point... but I will say this. In James, he writes that faith without works is dead--amen. Faith is the subject of what James says, is dead. "FAITH without works is DEAD." This doesn't...

(thesuperjag;57043) There are no if's that maintain our salvation. All of the promises of God are in Him, ye and amen.The only *if* of salvation is that of the *if* which pre-dates salvation... that is the if of *if* we will receive Him or not. If we have done that, it's finished. There are...

(thesuperjag;57003) I John 1:9 - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. There are no if's that maintain our salvation. All of the promises of God are in Him, ye and amen.The only *if* of salvation is that of the *if*...

(jeffhughes;57026) I don't agree with you that making the Genesis account a metaphor makes Jesus into a metaphor, but I would like to ask you a hypothetical question on a slightly different note.Let's pretend for a moment that I could provide you proof of evolution beyond any reasonable doubt. I...

Paul and Jesus didn't believe it is a metephore, and neither do I. Neither should you.By all means, side with the world Jeff, and make it a complete "metephore" so that the Theory of Evolution can be true and see where it gets you. If it is is a metephore though, Jesus is a metephore... I and...