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  1. J

    Simple Chart of End Times Events

    It looks to me like Retro and Vet are almost exactly alike, with the exception of one thinking it has all happened in the past and the other saying that all has happened in the past, except for one week, which really isnt a week at all but 7 years. Of course neither one has any rebuttle to the...
  2. J

    Simple Chart of End Times Events

    Well, while I am seeing a little activity here, I have to wonder if anyone is actually looking at the chart I created, or just trying to divert attention from it. Perhaps I should repost it again: In response to Justin, I wonder if he really even looked at my chart because there is NO mention...
  3. J

    Simple Chart of End Times Events

    Ramble, no. Repeat myself one too many times because the people Im talking to cannot rebut my info and just try to throw their own unsupportable theories at me, yes. I think the very fact that you simply are trying to ignore what I am pressing home to you is sign enough that you have no...
  4. J

    Simple Chart of End Times Events

    I think my chart above explains it nicely. No part of the 2300 days or the 70 weeks has occured yet. The relationship between the combination of the 70 weeks in Daniel and the times listed for the 5th - 7th Angels and the 3 1/2 days that 2 Witnesses lay dead in Revelation being equal to exactly...
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    Simple Chart of End Times Events

    Vet makes some good points. Personally, I think that the 2300 days end with the resurrection of the 2 witnesses and the return of christ comes about 30 days after their death as shown in my chart, but the fact that these events and the 2300 days are connected to the end of the Apocalypse seems...
  6. J

    Simple Chart of End Times Events

    Retro said: Actually, my stuff adds up just fine. In fact, I don't need to talk about your numbers and calculations except to help YOU! Well, thanks for your concern but I think Im ok with what I have discovered. As I've already said, you'll continue to believe what you want to believe...
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    Simple Chart of End Times Events

    Retro, arguing with you is futile. You are wrong and I think most here know it. Retro in gray (like his logic): First off, it doesn't matter how much Scripture I post when it is all applicable and is better to read than the rantings of ANY one fallible human being. So your solution is to post...
  8. J

    Simple Chart of End Times Events

    Retro says: It doesn't even matter if your chart adds the times up to "exactly" 2300 days (which it does NOT), since the 2300 days to which you cling were FULFILLED IN THE PAST!!! Retro then posts the entire 8th chapter of Daniel to support his assumptions. And assumptions they are, not...
  9. J

    Simple Chart of End Times Events

    Well, now lets think about this for a minute. Vet says: Your chart begins on a false basis from the very start, completely denying what is written in the Daniel 9 70 weeks prophecy about the command to restore Jerusalem and build the next temple after Judah's 70 years Babylon captivity, which...
  10. J

    Simple Chart of End Times Events

    No Vet, it is nutty to try to use an event that happened well before Revelation is even written to make another assumption which requires the twisting of scripture to make it fit. I have shown in my Chart that the 70 weeks and the times listed in Revelation adds up to exactly 2300 days. It...
  11. J

    Zechariah 14:1-5

    I have to wonder what guysmith is making of all this, but since it is Retro that is rebutting my info, I guess Ill respond to that (Retro's words in Orange): Well, since the woman in Revelation refers to Isra'el, are you saying that Isra'el is the "true church?" As Retro well knows, I have...
  12. J

    Simple Chart of End Times Events

    You ASSUME that this statement is referring to an event that happened back on that date when you have NO proof of it. You then ASSUME that the bible does not mean what it says in reference to the 70 weeks and reinterprete Gods word it to fit your own taste. I reject your assumptions and your...
  13. J

    Simple Chart of End Times Events

    Mary, I hope you take a GOOD look at my very simple chart. It is VERY different in content than the one you linked to. I have reposted it because I noticed some things that were not either clear or correct in the earlier version and I felt that a better revision was needed. As you can tell, it...
  14. J

    The 70th Week of Daniel/2555 days

    Sorry, Guestman, as you can see from my post. it is very clear that NO part of the 70 weeks has happened yet.
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    Simple Chart of End Times Events

    Revised version: A Chart of the End Time Events with Explaination By Mell Leonard 03/10/2013 Introduction This document has one primary goal. After much reading and research I have come to the conclusion that much of what we are taught about the writings within the Bible concerning the...
  16. J

    The 70th Week of Daniel/2555 days

    Rytro stated: They are all CLOSE to being the same length of time, but they are NOT the same exactly. There are just too many assumptions within your reasoning and you are coming to "clear" conclusions that are about as "clear" as muddy water. But, hey, you're going to believe what you want to...
  17. J

    The 70th Week of Daniel/2555 days

    The Bible is pretty straight forward in showing us that the 1260 days, the 42 months and the 3 1/2 times are all the same. The first mention of these times is in Daniel but carries little explaination: Dan 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which [was] upon the waters of the river...
  18. J

    The 70th Week of Daniel/2555 days

    The definition of how a month is to be counted in the bible is given in Revelation where it states that 42 months is the same as 1260 days, so any count that calls for a month uses this formula, meaning 30 days each. However, the Jews did use the sun to plot their years, so, even though we...
  19. J

    Zechariah 14:1-5

    1. How did they avoid taking the mark for the 3 1/2 years of the GT? 2. How did they feed themselves for 3 1/2 years wihtout the mark? Both these questions are answered in Revelation. Rev 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should...
  20. J

    Forgotton Form of the Apocalypse

    Be careful there Daq, your flip side is showing. The bible has never shied away from showing the bad side of those who claim to be Gods people, yet even with no proof of anything, you assume that Daniel, one of the coolest people in the bible, was somehow a participant in an evil act. You even...