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    The True Interpretation of Revelation and Daniel

    Well Retrobyter, I respect your view to disagree with me. After all, if you actually admitted that what I have shown you made sense, you would have to also admit that the stuff you believe is false. This is not likely I can see. I do have to stick with the fact that what I have presented is...
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    The True Interpretation of Revelation and Daniel

    Hmm, that's funny, I thought all I had done was simply taken all the number of days that God gives us in the Bible concerning this time and added them all up. Pretty straight forward in my opinion and not at all like the convoluted mess most everyone else has bought into.
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    The True Interpretation of Revelation and Daniel

    Retrobyter, I am glad we agree that the teachings of men do not always equate into understanding of the Bible. Personally, I would not even have mentioned my ability to understand numbers had you not thought it significant to bring it up in the first place. Actually, it is the fact that even a...
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    The True Interpretation of Revelation and Daniel

    Retrobyter, I am also a numbers man, being an AutoCAD Tech and having just gone back to school and gotten an A in Advanced College Algebra this summer (I have over a 3.85 GPA and am on the Presidents List at college), so I can understand what you are getting at, but what I have shown you is not...
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    What is 'Futurism'?

    Thank you Retrobyter.
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    The True Interpretation of Revelation and Daniel

    Sorry for the delay in my response, but thank you for asking Day. It also appears that Retrobyter needs this answer as well. Your first question was: How does your timeline fit in with Daniel's 1290 days and 1335 days? In looking at my timeline I realize I do not state clearly (for this I...
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    The True Interpretation of Revelation and Daniel

    Well, first you misquoted me. I said that the time after the universe is destroyed after the 1000 year reign of Christ is 'outside OUR understanding', but if you are so wise as to understand what it will be like when even the current laws of Physics no longer apply, then I tip my hat to you...
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    What is 'Futurism'?

    Ok, I think I get it now I think.
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    What is 'Futurism'?

    Just so I understand what people mean when they say "Futurism", what is the definition of this, at least as it is used on this board?
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    The True Interpretation of Revelation and Daniel

    Though much symbolism is used in Revelation to try to describe certain spiritual aspects of physical things that are hard to be understood by us, it is literal in that 7 men will be born on the earth, each endowed with an abundance of the Holy Energy of God (also known as the Golden Oil per Zech...
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    Are The 144,000 Christian?

    You guys realize that the sealing shown in Revelation concerning the 144,000 is first mentioned in Eze 9 dont you: I wonder if any of you have even seen this, much less what it means: Eze 9:2 And, behold, six men came from the way of the higher gate, which lieth toward the north, and every man...
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    Seven Years of Tribulation,

    That's ok. I know I am right on this one and as time goes on and the situation begins to transpire, it will become obvious. I am pretty sure the time will be not too far away. It’s Michael the first time and it’s Michael the second time in these passages. The match is perfect. I will not...
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    Seven Years of Tribulation,

    Well Saint, not sure how much clearer I can make it. You asked for proof and I have shown it. You see the exact matches of Zech and Revelations and choose not to believe your eyes. I had a professor at the university once tell me that Daniel was not a real man either. He claimed Daniel was...
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    Seven Years of Tribulation,

    Once again, I stress to you all, applying the Day for Year theory to Daniel 8 and 9 is an incorrect interpretation. Doing this destroyed the people who followed John Miller in the 1800's. It didn't work then and it doesn't work now. All it did was destroy all who bought into that error. God...
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    Seven Years of Tribulation,

    Hello Saint, I am happy to respond to your request. I will assume that if I can prove Biblically that at least ONE of the Seven is a real flesh and man that is also referred to as an Angel, you should be able to accept that the rest are men as well, so I will do so with pleasure. It appears...
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    Seven Years of Tribulation,

    Thank you, Saint, for giving me the opportunity to explain myself and Veteran, what you are pointing out is exactly what I am getting at, only more than just applying that to the 2 Witnesses. Yes, the individuals listed in Revelation, i.e. the Seven Angels, the Woman who gives birth to the...
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    Seven Years of Tribulation,

    I thought that might be where you are going and no, I dont think thats possible. The basis of the interpretaton I have come to understand as the truth is that all these people are real and are exactly what the bible says they are. These people and events, though shrowded by symbolistic...
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    Seven Years of Tribulation,

    Well, Saint, that’s a good question. I don’t have them identified by name yet, but I do know a few things about them and I have some ideas that will help identify them when they make themselves known (although that might not be too difficult under any circumstance, considering their actions)...
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    Seven Years of Tribulation,

    I am willing to bet that most of you folks don’t even realize that the first mention of the 2 Witnesses of Revelations are in Zechariah 4 and dwells on them for the whole chapter just as you also don’t realize that the first mention of the colored horses that the first 4 Angels of Revelation...