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Hi Kidron, AMEN !! That is good news. Jesus truly set us free from sin (John 8:36). Christians are saints and not sinners. Thanks for your post. You quoted good scriptures showing how Christ set us free from sin. I hope you don't mind my adding a post below I had from another topic. It's...

Hi Episkopis, Are you mixing up "mixing faith with works" with "mixing grace with works" (of the law)? Regarding faith, it is dead without works (James 2:26). Unfortunately for you, you incorrectly see these works as works of the law. This contradicts Eph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved...

Hi Episkopis, It is unfortunate that you have no spiritual understanding of scriptures including Titus 1:16, "They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work" We are clearly following different gospels.

Hi Episkopis, Agreed, Rom 2:13 says the doers of the law are justisfied. But scriptures also state the following: Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin. Gal 2:16 knowing that a man is not justified by the...

Hi Episkopis, Unfortunately you are reluctant to offer scripture to support your doctrine, claiming that it's no use to do so. But why would you think making your own personal claims about your doctrine be any more worthwhile stating than scripture? What I see from what you have shared is...

Hi Episkopis, My question is similar to Mark S, but I guess maybe more specific. Do you know anybody who has achieved this perfection in deeds/lifestyle you claim we need to have?

Hi bigandyy, Sorry, but scripture says "freed from sin", "ceased from sin", "cannot sin". Your disagreement is with God's word and not me. And being freed from sin has everything to do with Christ being crucified, as Christians are crucified with Christ (Rom 6:6). Consider 1Pet 4:1 "since...

Hi biggandyy, If I look like a fool for sharing on how Christ crucified set us free from sin (John 8:36, Rom 6:7, Rom 6:18, 1Pet 4:1, 1John 3:9, 1John 5:18) I'm ok with that. Sorry, but I couldn't help myself in quoting these scriptures in reply, :rolleyes: 1Cor 1:23 "but we preach Christ...

Hi dragonfly, There was no straw man as you presumed. The 10 commandments are commonly referred to as the law. I had asked earlier what commandments you were referring to in answering for Episkopis, but got no answer. It is difficult to discuss things if you don't clarify your points with...

Hi Rach, I can understand your difficulty in understanding where I'm coming from. I too had difficulty when first introduced to this. The doctrine that Christians still sin (in spite of the cross) is the mainstream view. Being mainstream doesn't make it right, but it does make it hard to think...

Hi Rach, Regarding those scriptures I listed, you are correct, one of them was incorrect. The verse written was correct, but the reference to Rom 7:7 was incorrect. "freed from sin", Rom 6:7, John 8:36 "ceased from sin", 1Pet 4:1 "cannot sin", 1John 3:6-9 Scripture confirms scripture...

Hi Netchaplan, Trust God instead (not man's commentaries) for getting understanding. 1John2:27 " But the anointing which you have received from Him abides in you, and you do not need that anyone teach you; but as the same anointing teaches you concerning all things, and is true, and is not a...

Hi Episkopis, Your doctrine even condemns yourself. When asked if you perfectly obey the commandents you admit you don't. When asked if you have fallen from grace you admit you have. Then you say: "So then if we are not able to keep the commandments of God perfectly then we either are not...

Hi Rach, It's good to see that we agree on much now that preconceptions and the limitations of forum communications is being addressed. Regarding some sticking points, I'll discuss these below. You said: " I still can't quite come at the phrasing 'cannot sin/ceased from sin'...simply because...

Hi dragonfly, As I'm new here I don't know Episkopis as well as you seem to do, in answering on his behalf. So what commandments is he referring to? Regarding whether Episkopis claimed to know Christ or was a liar breaking the commandments was based on "1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and...

Hi Episkopis, I assuming you believe these verses in 1John 2 refer to keeping the 10 commandments in this physical life. As you admitted that you don't keep them yourself are you also admitting that you are a liar and do not have the truth in you if you claim that you know him? Or are you...

Hi Episkopis, You said " It is impossible to sin in the Spirit...one must leave the presence of God in order to sin." I agree with this and have been saying such in my posts. However I see we differ in what this means. You suggest physical evidence of this is seen in this imperfect physical...

Hi Rach, I guess you have found, just like I did, that trying to get a message accross on forums can be difficult at the best of times. When God sees Christians He sees Christ in us. It is in this way we are righteous, without sin,holy, sanctified and perfected. As for the imperfect physical...

Hi Rach, I agree long posts are difficult to answer. My apologies. I also don't like dealing with long posts with too many pionts. I'll try to keep them shorter with less points. Like most people I prefer shorter posts to read anyway. We differ in our understanding of the relevance of those...

Hi Episkopis, Not sure what your doctrine is so I'll ask some questions to help clarify things. Are you perfectly obeying the law? Have you ever fallen from grace?