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I can appreciate your zeal in wanting to warn other of what is coming. But for me, I don't really focus on some idea of dealing with the final period coming upon the earth since I believe the redeemed are removed from it before it starts and there is no way to prepare for what it coming anyway...

Oh, there will be spiritual apostasy. But likely more in line spiritual fornication with New Age, Prosperity Gospel, Eastern religions, even witchcraft being introduced into the church. That is more in line with those coming in like wolves and doctrine of demons stuff mentioned in scripture...

Well, we will just have to disagree. Matthew 23 pretty well addresses Hosea 5, so that meets the Torah requirement. The following verses in Hosea after Yeshua returns to His place speaks volumes. Hosea 6:1-2 (NKJV) Come, and let us return to the Lord; For He has torn, but He will heal us; He...

Could be, but many Greek scholars and many English translations say that the departure (as in a spatial departure not a spiritual one) is the correct translation of apostasia in 2 Thessalonians 2. Without a reference in the verse to state what is being departed from, the departure is all that...

No way. If you choose to poke your finger in the eye of Yahweh, that is your choice. I will not be an accomplice.

Your assertion doesn't fit the context of Hosea 5. The passage is clear that the offense occurs when Yeshua is here and it causes Him to return to His place. You are off into several hundred years prior. If the offense was prior to His coming, it would have caused Him not to come if it was...

How could that be? Were the western Caucasion people in Jerusalem to do the offense of rejecting Yeshua when He was there? You can't have it both ways. Being in the land to reject Yeshua and being scattered to Europe at the same time. To be guilty of an offense, one has to be where the...

Except Yeshua made it clear that both Ephraim (Israel) and Judah would have to acknowledge their offense of rejecting Him and reference Psalms 118... Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.... before He would return. Hosea 5:14-15 and Matthew 23:39. If things are as you suggest, then...

No, many of us cannot see how you come to the conclusions you have regarding Jacob (Israel). But it is not surprising though. Many of us don't hold to the Two House / Ephraim concept. As much as you say that scripture supports it, there is one load of scripture that refutes it. It really...

Scripture from both OT and NT has been presented numerous times in the past posts. No need to repeat it now as it will be the same result with you. If I actually thought you were interested in serious dialogue, I might present it again. But based on many threads and many postings, I am not...

Nope. I just don't agree with your analysis. You don't have enough pay grade to determine that I have failed at anything. You are mortal just like I am. You got into the family the same way I did, and it was not based on anything we know or did. And like Paul stated, we all see through a...

Actually, there are two characters in play... the Antichrist and the False Prophet, working in unison.

Nothing you can say will intimidate me into recanting the pre-millennial pre-trib. No one has in 50 years and I am more solidly in the camp than at any other time in my life. One does have to wonder though, how does one encourage the brethren by telling them they are in store for the worse...

That’s OK. I am comfortable with the concept and have been since 1967. You are still welcome along for the ride when it happens. I believe it so much that I go out in the yard and jump up and down for rapture practice! Well, not quite, but I think you get the point. All who trust in Yeshua...

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that that man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition. This is from the 1599 Geneva Bible. It is the accurate translation of the passage along with the LV using...

If you had actually done your homework you would have found illusions to the pre-trib concept as far back as at least the 4th century, and likely further than that. One of the main reasons there is not a lot of writing on it prior to the reformation was that the institutional church would brand...

The passage in Daniel 9, there are two distinct princes in view. Messiah the prince, and the prince who is to come. Since the weeks are specifically with Daniel's people in mind, the has to be some other people than Daniel's people, the Hebrews. There is a delineation between Daniel's people...

First and foremost, you won't find the words Trinity, Atheist, Agnostic, and a host of other words that folks have put on valid concepts. So it really isn't a strong argument to base a position on word or the lack thereof. Well if you follow only God's written word, then we have a different...

They won't if the are not cognizant of the the end times scenario. There will be many who do it gladly out of willingness with no illusions or lack of understanding. Many have been and are looking forward to finally ridding themselves of this God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And finally an...

But I am not sure that anyone who is redeemed can take the mark. First off, it is not going to be some sort of subtle thing going on. It will be worship the beast and take the mark or die. It will be a defined choice and folks will know exactly what they are doing. And throughout the NT, it...