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Try Isaiah 26. The entire chapter is regarding the Day of the Lord. Look especially at the last few verses. Compare with John 14:2. I would post but I am mobile at work now.

So then, were Isaiah and King David both pulling our leg along with Yeshua? And Hosea says that Yeshua would return to His place because of the rejection by Jacob (Israel). And would not return until they acknowledge that offense and turn to Him. Along with that, Enoch said that He comes with...

I am not sure either of us is "deceived". And using such a term is a bit extreme for this issue. We just see the passages differently and we are influenced differently by extra biblical sources. If we were discussing core doctrines of the faith and we were in diametric opposition, then...

I that regard, the question will be asked of every one of us in one way or another. It would be arrogant pride to assume one has discerned everything perfectly. I think there are many examples regarding the Lord's protection today that make even the tribulation seem pale in comparison. I see...

Plenty from both OT and NT to support a removal fo the righteous at the start of or before the Day of the Lord. More than enough to meet the evidentiary requirement of Torah. Most certainly before any judgements or wrath begins. And who is it that eventually delivers the Gospel to the entire...

Most folks, dispensational or not, get the 7 year period primarily from Daniel 9:27. The trigger being the covenant that is affirmed by the antichrist with Israel. The antichrist being the rider on the white horse of Revelation 6:2. And it closely ties into Isaiah 28:14-15 which is directly...

The comment I gave was in regards to your statement that the pre-trib position was not taught before 1800. That is not true and I addressed it. You come back with some two step dance around that has nothing to do with what I was responding to.

And that is patently not true. There are examples back to the 4th century at least. Many from the 1400's. Even the 1599 Geneva Bible translates 2 Thessalonians 2:3 in such a way to imply a pre-trib removal of the righteous. Matter of fact, virtually all translations prior to the KJV do...

Yeah many do tend to stick only with the classic NT passages. I like to use the OT references to show a pre-trib position. After all, no matter what position on these things a person holds, according to the evidentiary requirement of both the OT and NT it must be supported fully from both OT...

Still does not explain why Yeshua and the redeemed (Revelation 2:26-27) are having to rule with a rod of iron if everyone is redeemed and in their spiritual bodies. Ruling with a rod of iron implies having to rule harshly due to some folks getting out of line. And if they are redeemed and in...

I do stick with Yahweh's Word. I also adhere to the requirement of the Torah of Yahweh's Word that states for any matter to be established, it must be supported by the testimony of at least two witnesses. And according to Yahweh's Word, the Bereans in Acts 17 provided the example of how that...

But if only the redeemed go into the kingdom, and they are raptured at the time Yeshua returned, then what mortals remain to repopulate the earth? If only the redeemed are raptured go into the kingdom, then who will have children in the kingdom? And if only the redeemed are raptured go into...

The one aspect of the post trib position that doesn't seem to work for me. If the rapture does not occur till right at the return of Messiah, and the rapture would be of those who are redeemed, then who are those that are separated as the sheep and the goats of Matthew 25 (which is a...

Actually it can be more bizarre. There is replacement theology then there is restoration / dual covenant theology with really goes off the reservation when it comes to the tribes thing. But it is becoming a more popular.

I suppose there are some who would take the word of Josephus over the the writers of 2 Chronicles, Ezra, and Nehemiah. Ok, I guess. But I will stick with the scripture. And Josephus has to be full of wild blueberry muffins because people of 4 of the tribes are specifically mentioned in the...

IF the Lord will not honor His promises to Israel, the what is the basis for the Believer to hold on to that the Lord will honor His promises to those who trust in Him? That is why Israel is the believers insurance policy. if He will honor His promises to Israel then He can be trusted to...

It is not beyond reason to take 2 Thessalonians 2:3 as having a double application in view. A departure from the faith and also a departure from the earth. With both of them happening before "that day" (day of the Lord in V2) and the man of sin is revealed. But there has been numerous...

Just curious, based out of Guam? I thought they were up to the G model by that time. I was Army so not a wizard on what the AF was doing. I mostly had dealings with A-7’s delivering close air support.

No doubt you are wrong. Yes, and Deuteronomy and Acts 17 is the two witnesses (OT and NT) I used to support that. Guess that got missed that when I mentioned both Deuteronomy and the Bereans (Acts 17). Unless Acts is no longer part of the NT.

Yeah, it goes by different names but similar theology. Dominion Theology, Kingdom Now Theology, Replacement Theology, etc.