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  1. Skovand1075

    Does the Bible teach us how Cain murdered Abel? I think so.

    Abel’s name means basically vapor. Something that is quickly gone as the sun rises.
  2. Skovand1075

    Does the Bible teach us how Cain murdered Abel? I think so.

    This one centers on Cain and his brother, Abel. Many times people often believe that the death of Abel is wrapped up in mystery, and one of those mysteries is how did Cain kill Abel. It’s often claimed that the Bible never says how he did it. But personally, I believe it does. Most people seem...
  3. Skovand1075

    In-depth Bible Study on Eternal Punishment

    Sheol may have been turned into hell, same as with hades by the KJV but the bulk of translators don’t. Hell and Hades are not the same place. Hades is the place of the dead . Hell is the lake of fire, aka, the second death. The KJV is notoriously known among scholars for not being a good...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    I agree with you on bits and pieces. But ultimately you’re just not convincing me of anything beyond surface level stuff. It’s not some tradition on the rest of it that has be confused. When studying the Bible out, and looking into the studies of scholarship, it all just seems to point towards...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Well if we continue reading Romans 8 we see this. Romans 8:18-25 New American Standard Bible 18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19 For the eagerly awaiting creation waits for the revealing of the...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    No. We disagree. the first death is not being born. Bavaria are not born dead to god. Babies don’t need to be forgiven. Original sin is not in the Bible. We see only guilty of our own sins we commit. the first death is the first time we physically die and remain dead until resurrection. The...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    i just don’t think that spiritual death is the second death. I think we are souls made of body and spirit. When our physical body does, does our spirit. Sleeping. Without a physical body it just won’t remain. The second death is the resurrection of the wicked, who are judged and then destroyed (...
  8. Skovand1075

    Evolution UTTERLY DESTROYED per Richard Dawkins

    it’s perfectly fine to be a Christian and accept science. Evolution is definitely true. There is no scientific doubt about it. Though they are the loudest, the YEC/OEC and IDers make up only a fraction of the faith and they are mostly the alt right with very backward understanding of life. you...
  9. Skovand1075

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Sure. But none of that contradicts hell is the second death where someone dies. It’s not a spiritual death. It’s a literal death. Just like if I got in a wreck and flung through a window and smashed on the road. Dead.
  10. Skovand1075

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Well its not actually clear what the exact issue was. There is no consensus. But as for the dead, Jesus is referring to those who don’t love god as being symbolically dead. Spiritual death is a symbolic way of referring to not being part of gods kingdom which is very different from being...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Why do you think the tree of life granted eternal life and not sustained life instead by being eaten again and again?
  12. Skovand1075

    Can SCOTUS overturn gay marriage next?

    I know one thing. I’m really looking forward to things like electoral college being done away with so that we can vote as a true democracy, and vote the way the majority wants. That will ensure a constant win for the liberal left democrats. Republicans never win the majority vote. Only...
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    Can SCOTUS overturn gay marriage next?

    I’m curious. Why do Christian’s here feel that it’s up to them to stop others from living the life they want? Jesus seemed to be pretty anti theocracy on this earth at this time? Why not also fight to make it illegal to not go to church? 1 Corinthians 5:12 New American Standard Bible 12 For...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Want to know what the lake of fire is? It’s the second death. What is the second death? It means to die a second time. Why does it mean to die a second time? Revelation 20:14 New American Standard Bible 14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the...
  15. Skovand1075

    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Well you are more than welcome to counter my points. Anyone can say you’re wrong and toss out irrelevant verses. Counter what I said if you want too, and are able too.
  16. Skovand1075

    King of Tyre or a Supernatural Creature of Darkness

    Actually I’m just not dumb. That’s the only difference. I don’t have this tiny fragile echo chamber style faith. I know more than 6th grade science and I don’t have to make up history.
  17. Skovand1075

    Who are the sons of God and the daughters of men

    You’re rambling and it’s not making sense. when I say genesis 1-11 is myth, that’s a genre. It’s not a literal historical account. It’s fiction. Fiction is not synonymous with false. I’ve said it a dozen times. A parable, a metaphors, symbolism and ect… none of it is lies. Myth as a genre does...
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    King of Tyre or a Supernatural Creature of Darkness

    I definitely think we see Satan there, but he’s not yet the enemy he becomes in the New Testament. But we can see friction in the heavenly realm in a few places. 1. In genesis we read of the mythological Enochian angel fall. Though I don’t believe it’s real , I believe it’s alluding to...
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    God "CREATED" -- What it actually means.

    This is why I’m not bothering to dig to deeply into a debate with you. That’s not even what most evolutionary creationist believe. Like we don’t believe the days represents epoch of times. That’s silly. That’s old earth creationist. I say genesis 1 is completely fiction. God inspired...
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    God "CREATED" -- What it actually means.

    I disagree because I study the Bible and read science books.