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  1. Patrick1966

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    You're WAY over thinking what was intended to be a lighthearted joke.
  2. Patrick1966

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    I'm just being lighthearted. I'll step away for now.
  3. Patrick1966

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    Indeed. Many ignore the parable of the lost sheep and other scriptures.
  4. Patrick1966

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    Amen. I share that Jesus is kind, loving, merciful, willing, and capable of saving ALL people. I provide scriptures to back it. And if they reject it I lovingly kick them in the balls!
  5. Patrick1966

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    Take what up? Do you think I espouse a doctrine that is not of God? Do you think that I espouse that there are no negative consequences for the wicked?
  6. Patrick1966

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    Great and fitting scriptures my brother. I mentioned in another thread that I avoid doctrinal discussions with people I meet in person, with a few notable exceptions. I stick to love God, demonstrate that love through obedience and love one another. I think most Christians will agree and go...
  7. Patrick1966

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    It's interesting to me that Jesus said that one is a "devil", considering that most Christians believe that Jesus is worse than the devil in that the devil will be destroyed but Jesus will torture people FOREVER.
  8. Patrick1966

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    I too was taught, and believed, that Jesus was all loving while simultaneously torturing some unfortunate folks forever. I could never reconcile that doctrine but there it was, right in the Bible in Matthew 25:46, among others. Decades later I learned that the translations that I was reading...
  9. Patrick1966

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    I never said or implied that another is NOT a Christian. I just said that I don't believe one's salvation is at risk for believing that Jesus is a sadistic monster.
  10. Patrick1966

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    Perhaps but I too am saddened and offended to hear others describe our amazing and loving creator as an unforgiving sadist.
  11. Patrick1966

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    This is one of many verses that demonstrates Jesus's true nature and NOT that of an unforgiving sadist.
  12. Patrick1966

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    I think we can provide scriptures but it's ultimately up to God to permit another to see and to understand. If they want to cling to the belief that Jesus is an unforgiving sadist then only God can help them to see the truth Fortunately, I don't believe such a belief is a salvational issue.
  13. Patrick1966

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    Amen. Here is another. Proverbs 25:4 esv Take away the dross from the silver, and the smith has material for a vessel
  14. Patrick1966

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    Most of the people that post here on a regular basis are interested in doctrinal discussions. They arrive here with their own theology with which they use to try and persuade others. Their problem is that they themselves are unwilling to be persuaded. And so we have numerous, hardcore...
  15. Patrick1966

    Hellfire and brimstone has given way to eternal separation from God. - Why?

    Paul warned about those that would teach a different doctrine. Nevertheless, most have been deceived into believing that Jesus is an unforgiving sadist that forces billions to suffer forever punishment. They believe in a different Jesus than do you and I, Stephen. Galatians 1:8 ESV 8 But even...
  16. Patrick1966

    How do you reconcile "the gates of Hell will NOT prevail" with Satan supposedly taking most of mankind to Hell with him?

    You misunderstand the nature and methods of Jesus. Jesus provides a way to salvation in the afterlife and he waits until ALL go to him before giving the kingdom to God. That's what Paul describes in 1 Corinthians 15, but you don't understand Paul.