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  1. Patrick1966

    Seems like christianchat.com has disappeared

    Isn't that place managed by a bunch of political leftists?
  2. Patrick1966

    Hello from New England

    Hey Wrecked, I'm your brother in Christ and I'd like to talk to you. Please email me at [email protected]
  3. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    Ok. So the scriptures are in error and Jesus tortures people forever.
  4. Patrick1966

    If Peter founded the Roman church, why then did Paul write so much to them?

    Thanks. I was asking not who founded the church but which apostle founded the church in Rome. The Catholic Church claims that Peter founded the Roman Church, right? And so I'm asking how do they know that Peter founded the church in Rome?
  5. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    I appreciate the discussion and your brotherly love. May God bless us all!
  6. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    Satan is doing EXACTLY what God created him to do. Satan will also be saved and purified.
  7. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    You'll also noticed that the word "means" was used and what is significant is that it is plural as in that Jesus has created more than one "means" to save those that have been banished.
  8. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    @dev553344 What does this say? If punishment is forever then this verse is incorrect. 2 Samuel 14:14 We must all die; we are like water spilled on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again. But God will not take away life, and he devises means so that the banished one will not remain an...
  9. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    Again, erroneous translation. Daniel 12:2 Young's Literal Translation `And the multitude of those sleeping in the dust of the ground do awake, some to life age-during, and some to reproaches -- to abhorrence age-during.
  10. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    I believe the second death is reserved for the truly wicked. And what exactly is the Lake of Fire? The name is symbolic of a metal worker's crucible used to melt and purify metal. I believe the "Lake of Fire" is a very unpleasant process for evil beings that, ultimately, refines them. Jesus...
  11. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    Philippians 2:10-11 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your...
  12. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    That is from the Concordant Literal New Testament. I prefer the ESV for its ease of reading but whenever I encounter verses that relate to time I check with the CLNT. Young's Literal Translation is also good.
  13. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    @dev553344 1 John 3:3 ESV And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure. What can we glean from that? We can glean that ALL get purified but not necessarily in the same way. What John was saying is that we believers get purified the nice and easy way through our faith in...
  14. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    No, that's not what Jesus said. Jesus said... Matthew 25:41 CLNT 41 "Then shall He be declaring to those also at His left, 'Go from Me, you cursed, into the fire eonian, made ready for the Adversary and his messengers. Dev, the Bible from which you quoted contradicts itself due to erroneous...
  15. Patrick1966

    Let me clarify this. I believe in "OSNAS" Scripturally, but...

    Do you believe that Judas will be boiled in lava forever?
  16. Patrick1966

    Let me clarify this. I believe in "OSNAS" Scripturally, but...

    Do you believe that all people will end up with God?