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  1. Patrick1966

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    I have no idea. I was a Catholic for the first 50 years of my life. Some of their doctrines didn't make sense to me and so I picked up a Bible and unlearned much of what I was taught. I also discovered that most English Bible translations contradict themselves. That is when I learned about...
  2. Patrick1966

    How do you reconcile "the gates of Hell will NOT prevail" with Satan supposedly taking most of mankind to Hell with him?

    This forum is great for doctrinal discussions. In a church setting or in someone's home I would stay away from that and would stick to loving, praising, and thanking God, the importance of demonstrating that love through obedience, and that we MUST love another as ourselves! Imagine if I...
  3. Patrick1966

    How do you reconcile "the gates of Hell will NOT prevail" with Satan supposedly taking most of mankind to Hell with him?

    Amen. What good is it to perfectly understand God's word if we don't love one another?
  4. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    John 1:29 ESV The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!" changed to... The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of SOME!"
  5. Patrick1966

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    All are under his feet which means they are all loyal to Jesus.
  6. Patrick1966

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    Initially they will be denied. They are fake Christians. They will be cleansed in the Lake of Fire. There they will learn repentance and thereafter they will go to Jesus in sincerity. In 1 Corinthians 15, Jesus is WAITING. That's why Paul said that Jesus MUST rule until ALL of his enemies...
  7. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    What is your interpretation? Why does Jesus have to rule if he is simply condemning most of humanity to forever punishment? If that's the case, then why is it necessary for him to wait? What is the purpose?
  8. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    1 Corinthians 15:22 ESV For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. changed to... 1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall SOME be made alive.
  9. Patrick1966

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    Perhaps I am misinterpreting the scriptures. What does it mean that "he must rule until all enemies are under his feet"?
  10. Patrick1966

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    In that era, emperors and kings sat on elevated thrones and all of their servants were "under their feet". Jesus must rule until ALL have been converted. That includes Satan as "all" means ALL. Then, as Paul said, the kingdom will be given to God the Father. I encourage you to read the chapter.
  11. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    Romans 5:18 ESV Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. changed to... Romans 5:18 Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for allmen, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life...
  12. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    Lamentations 3:31 ESV For the Lord will NOT cast off forever. changed to... For the Lord WILL cast off forever.
  13. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    1 John 4:14 ESV 14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. changed to... 14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of SOME.
  14. Patrick1966

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    1 Corinthians 15 says that Jesus rules until ALL enemies are converted.
  15. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    1 Timothy 4:10 ESV For to this end we toil and strive,[a] because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe. changed to... For to this end we toil and strive,[a] because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of...
  16. Patrick1966

    Changing verses to conform to forever punishment theology

    I would respond by saying that I'm not the judge and so I don't know but that I have complete faith in God to be able to heal and save anyone.