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I try not to take things too seriously and to try and appreciate and love others here regardless of their doctrines. That's what we're supposed to do. Just love one another, dummy. ;)

In this thread I will demonstrate how various verses can be changed to conform to the theology of forever punishment. Luke 2:10 ESV 10 And the angel said to them, “Fear not, for behold, I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. changed to... 10 And the angel said...

Most mainstream Christians here believe that about me and @St. SteVen

1 Corinthians 15:24-26 ESV 24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death.

At the end of the ages all who ever lived will call Jesus "Lord" and all will go to live with God in his kingdom. Nobody, not even Satan, will be in the Lake of Fire.

But you believe that Jesus will permit billions of people to suffer horribly forever, right? That is a fascinating and yet mainstream theology.

Great post! You, me, and others are THE church!

I just gave you the scripture. People cannot follow Jesus unless God permits them to do so.

None of that contradicts the verse I provided. You blame people for not following Christ even though it is God that prevents them from doing so. On another note and in response to the scriptures that you provided, it is God's will that Jesus loses NONE but you nevertheless believe that Satan...

John 6:65 ESV And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father".

All part of God's plan. In the end, all will follow Jesus.

My brother, I believe that God is using Satan to test, refine, and purify us. God came to us through Jesus and offers some salvation through him. He doesn't permit everyone to believe in Jesus. Why do you believe that is? I believe it's for everybody's education and edification. I believe...

I don't share your opinion. I believe that Satan is doing exactly what God created him to do. Satan cannot, at this time, repent because God is not permitting him to do so because, if Satan repented now, mankind's earthly lessons would be incomplete. Let us remember that Satan will be held...

Is it your belief that God created Satan in order to use him and then torture him forever?

Bad translations result in Bibles that contradict themselves. That's the problem with the KJV and most other English Bible translations and that's why you and many others believe in forever punishment. Properly translated versions don't contradict themselves.

You and I have a different understanding of the scriptures but what I believe we are in agreement on is that we must love one another as Christ commanded us to do. Our brother has forgotten this basic yet essential commandment. Without love for one another, all biblical knowledge is useless.

Satan is doing exactly what God intended him to do.

Satan is doing exactly what God intended him to do.

Ok. I gotta run. May God bless us all my brother! No hard feelings!

Correct, and that's why he patiently waits. He wouldn't need to wait if he was simply sending them off to spend forever in a Nazi-style torture chamber. He waits for them to repent and go to him. Jesus heals. Sometimes the healing process is unpleasant but it's ultimately corrective and...