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  1. Patrick1966

    I've learned that message boards that permit free expression are extraordinarily RARE

    This community is, BY FAR, the BEST for Christian discussion. It's INSANE that they would ban such a learned poster such as yourself. Banning people for expressing a different understanding of doctrine is just STUPID.
  2. Patrick1966

    Jesus has devised more than one way to bring people to him

    I wish that I could say that I believe that I am filled with the Holy Spirit.
  3. Patrick1966

    Why do so many of you insult fellow Christians that express a different understanding?

    However, the only thing worse than interacting with an abusive poster is to have a moderator that wants to ban all unpopular speech. I prefer the former.
  4. Patrick1966

    Jesus has devised more than one way to bring people to him

    You are misunderstanding. Also, I see a lot of your personal opinions but ZERO scripture. What does the following mean to you? 1 Timothy 4:10 For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.
  5. Patrick1966

    Jesus has devised more than one way to bring people to him

    I never said nor implied that we should "bring people to Jesus". The point of my thread, and what I said, is that Jesus has devised more than one way to bring people to him. That's EXACTLY what 2 Samuel 14:14 says. Of course, you might be one of the many Christians here that doesn't believe...
  6. Patrick1966

    Jesus has devised more than one way to bring people to him

    It sure does my brother! 22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. 24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule...
  7. Patrick1966

    Jesus has devised more than one way to bring people to him

    For reasons not explained, God only permits some to follow Jesus - for now. In the end, of course, ALL people will go to Jesus. As 1 Corinthians 15 explains, Jesus must rule the kingdom until ALL follow him, at which time he will then give the kingdom to God the Father.
  8. Patrick1966

    Jesus has devised more than one way to bring people to him

    And then there's this from Paul. 2 Timothy 4:2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching.
  9. Patrick1966

    Jesus has devised more than one way to bring people to him

    Well, Jesus commanded his disciples to bring people to him. Matthew 28:19-20 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in[a] the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with...
  10. Patrick1966

    Why do so many of you insult fellow Christians that express a different understanding?

    For that matter many badly translated Bible versions contradict themselves, but I suppose that's for another thread.
  11. Patrick1966

    Jesus has devised more than one way to bring people to him

    Mainstream Christianity says that the ONLY way to salvation is to accept Jesus in THIS lifetime. However, the verse below is evidence that that belief is inaccurate. Notice the plural in "devices" in the following verse. 2 Samuel 14:14 14 for we do surely die, and [are] as water which...
  12. Patrick1966

    More and more the U.S. looks like Mystery Babylon

    These sound like New York. Revelation 17:15 ESV / 12 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful And the angel said to me, “The waters that you saw, where the prostitute is seated, are peoples and multitudes and nations and languages. Revelation 17:18 ESV / 11 helpful votes And the woman that you saw is...
  13. Patrick1966

    More and more the U.S. looks like Mystery Babylon

    Revelation 18:1-24 ESV / 13 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was made bright with his glory. And he called out with a mighty voice, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! She has become a dwelling place...
  14. Patrick1966

    More and more the U.S. looks like Mystery Babylon

    Revelation 17:1-18 ESV / 26 helpful votes Helpful Not Helpful Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the judgment of the great prostitute who is seated on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth have committed sexual immorality, and...
  15. Patrick1966

    Curious

    Yes.
  16. Patrick1966

    God's Eternal Life Insurance

    Another. Romans 6:23 Young's Literal Translation 23 for the wages of the sin [is] death, and the gift of God [is] life age-during in Christ Jesus our Lord.
  17. Patrick1966

    God's Eternal Life Insurance

    This verse is mistranslated. Here is the YLT translation. 2 Corinthians 5:1 Young's Literal Translation 5 For we have known that if our earthly house of the tabernacle may be thrown down, a building from God we have, an house not made with hands -- age-during -- in the heavens,
  18. Patrick1966

    God's Eternal Life Insurance

    The awful mistranslations in the King James Bible gave Christians the false doctrine of forever punishment. And even when confronted with a PLETHORA of scripture that contradicts "forever punishment", most Christians simply cannot unlearn what they were previously told.
  19. Patrick1966

    God's Eternal Life Insurance

    1 John 3:3 esv And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure. What we can glean from this is that EVERYONE gets purified. As this verse says, those who believe in Christ purify themselves. Everyone else will get purified but it will be a different path for them, such as...