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And yours was invented by dead ancients. You guys claim your doctrine is from man. You point to men to authenticate your doctrine. When they,and you have limited knowledge of eschatology. Not to mention we now have accounts of the church fathers teaching a pretrib rapture. So so wrong and...

The challenge to all, is who is grafted BACK IN in romans 9-11. Why don't any of you repl theos ever read romans?

QUOTE "Acts 1? Jesus ascended — He didn’t rapture the Church. That’s a category error. And the angels said He will return the same way He left — once, visibly, from the clouds. They didn’t say He’d come secretly seven years earlier to scoop up a hidden group. Now let's look at it instead of...

QUOTE “Worthy Ones Taken Pretrib”? Where’s the verse? Where does Jesus say “those counted worthy will be taken before the tribulation begins”?" I already told you. Jesus said "because you have kept the word of my testimony, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that's about to come up...

Jesus used Noah and Lot's deliverance side by side. He used both as pretribulation. Both gathered pretrib. But Noah is used as a vivid pretrib rapture. Noah gathered before the flood into the ark. Nothing was happening while Noah was in the ark pretrib. When the flood came, Noah was in the ark...

Quote "Revelation 14 doesn’t support pre-trib — it obliterates it." Rev 14 is a rapture of Jews. Your postrib doctrine has a flaw of impossibility. What Rev 14 does is it destroys your doctrines " one coming" When acts 1 '" like manner", and Rev 14 gathering with Jesus on a cloud,and then the...

AHEM The ones taken in the pretribulation rapture are the ones JESUS SAID are taken pretribulation. (the worthy ones) The ones killed in the pretribulation ,are those left behind....AS JESUS DECLARED. Taken = the 5 wise virgins, the ones taken in mat 24 (before the flood) LOT, Noah, acts 1,and...

The point is, the Jews you say don't exist are here and are the target of demon filled rulers and individuals. maybe someone can Send satan the memo so he can possily stop persecuting the Jews.

In the rapture the saints RISE INTO THE AIR...FACT Noah rose over a mile into the heavens.... FACT THe saints are in heaven according to Jesus during the tribulation....FACT Noah was in the heavens DURING THE FLOOD/TRIULATION...FACT The saints return to earth in rev 19 POST TRIULATION...FACT...

...and yet Hitler and Stalin tried to wipe out the JEWS. Now it is all Arab nations that want the JEWS wiped out. ( the race you say does not exist)

Some man taught you all that. The bible says the AC kills all the saints. During the trib. That alone throws a monkey wrench in your doctrine.

The Gospel of Christ said: "You said Noah was “taken” — as if being lifted in an ark means raptured to heaven?" Noah, Lot, the 5 wise virgins and the church are all gathered/taken. The only place the wicked world is destroyed is the LOF. And that is after the mil. Rev 19 is the second coming...

In Hosea those replacement theology adherents rewrite it to say he never went after Gomer. Gomer is a vivid unmistakable picture of the wayward wife ( the covenant Jew) repurchased. Hosea obsessed with his wife ,and pursuing her ,INSPITE OF her wicked sin. The jew grafted back in. Depicted...

...and it is called "Jacob's trouble ". ....(Israel's trouble) (Just to add to your point)

Catholics draw from the church father's. The same source you use.

At this point Scofield can't help you. You are so immersed in Scofield, you have missed the bible. Now you are calling the verses I point to as some Scofield devil. Nobody cares about your Scofield obsession. It is simply an alternate reality you draw like a gunslinger thinking it has...

Yes Covenant involves land.

Both covenants require innocent blood. All of the Old Testament saints were saved via innocent blood. The reason they could not enter heaven. It's because the price that Jesus paid had not been paid yet, so they were saved but not redeemed. But Christ Jesus is the redeemer and in romans we see...

Let me help you. Noah WAS GATHERED into the ark days before the flood...FACT Lot was gathered and REMOVED BEFORE ANY DESTRUCTION...FACT DURING the flood ( tribulation) Noah was TAKEN high above the earth in the ark ("ark" is a type oh heaven).....FACT Both Noah and Lot WERE TAKEN in the setting...