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Now you and all the anti Darby obsessed followers can learn your deal is a lie, and has been for years. It is you that invokes Darby and imagines you are actually addressing anything. You are indirectly saying you base your erroneous doctrine on dead ancients. You are basing YOUR ENTIRE...

Your little tantrum without addressing my challenges. Scofield has failed you again. ....but lives rent free in your brain. That is torment. Your torment is from that dead ancients building block. You invoked them, so now your make believe enemy ghost ,"Scofield, is haunting you You have...

Lol Yeah right. Who wouldda thought that a Jewish harvest follows Jewish firstfuits.. I forgot to add that to the list of voided verses by your doctrine. There are 2 more as you just pointed out. 1) the 144k ethnic Jews from ethnic Jewish tribes, numbered 2 different ways,from SPECIFIC TRIBES...

That tells me you are a mill. . At the rapture, only the dead and Christ are raised. So we have yet another totally messed up view, that God's word quite handily, and totally ,blows out of water. Ahem...at the GWTJ the entire earth's population is raised from the dead

Tons of believers "in Christ" have an edited , modified bible. You yourself thrive on omissions and changes to the bible. "Like manner" is changed Rev14 is changed Romans 11 is changed "Before the flood " is changed "All take the mark" is changed "The innumerable number in heaven" is changed...

The scriptures testify different than your doctrine. Rev 14:14 is neither the rapture of the church, nor is it the second coming of Rev 19. I have asked tons of post tribbers to unpack revelation, 14 verse 14 and the 10 virgin parable. none of them have been able to unpack either one of them. It...

Rev 14 is the Jewish harvest to heaven. Fordtfruits in heaven at Phoebe of revelation chapter 14. and then shortly after is the main Jewish harvest with Jesus sitting on a cloud.

No. Because Christ is the firstfruits those Afterward are main harvest. You can't have 2 firstfruits. I just shake my head at what doctrine does to bible comprehension. So now you are chosen out of Jewish tribes. For 40 years of study I have always read and understood Jesus returns postrib. I...

"the pre tribulation rapture doctrine began with Darby" Totally 100% debunked.

The Shepherd of Hermas (AD 90 to 150), speaks of the pretribulational concept of escaping the tribulation. "You have escaped from great tribulation on account of your faith, and because you did not doubt in the presence of such a beast. Therefore, go, tell the elect of the Lord His mighty...

In a sermon entitled “On the Last Times, the Antichrist, and the End of the World,” Syrian church father Pseudo-Ephraem (fourth to sixth century) wrote, “For all the saints and elect of God are gathered, prior to the tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the...

1) the bible says that every person on the face of the earth takes the mark whose names are not written in the book of life 2) the bible says that power is given to the antichrist to overcome the saints 3) in the book of daniel it says that the antichrist kills the saints 4) in revelation it...

we have always agreed he returns AFTER the tribulation. I have NEVER said he doesn't

so the Body of Christ is firstfruits? TRIBES? What TRIBE are you? we have always agreed he returns AFTER the tribulation. I have NEVER said he doesn't

First of all you have to understand harvest when you see the term first fruits it automatically refers to harvest. Jesus is the first fruits of the resurrection and the ascension to heaven. When you see the harvest of the barley and the wheat that is the gentile church. The Jewish harvest is the...

I have a hard time understanding why postribbers are so easily misled. That idea that Darby originated the pretrib rapture was debunked over 20 years ago by Bill Cloud. New writings are being discovered all the time. Pretrib rapture is as ancient as any doctrine. But if postribbers think their...

Pretrib rapture documented and taught a few years after polycarbonate

https://enduringword.com/was-the-pre-tribulation-rapture-invented-only-200-years-ago-qa-for-march-4-2021/ a short excerpt : ""And, to quickly make mention of, there are references in the ancient writers Shepherd of Hermas, Victorinus, and others that are quite consistent with the...

Here is a small part of the article "Early Witnesses After the time of the apostles, a number of writings indicate belief in the imminence of Christ’s return, which is consistent with pre-tribulationism. Clement of Rome (35-101), Ignatius of Antioch (died 110), The Didache (a late first-century...

I hope one day all will center on eschatology in the sense the bible frames it. 1) it is pointing to "the fulfillment", not centered on other things I see people trying to make it into. 2) the gathering of the bride. With the wedding at the Father's house Most, if not all NT end times focus...