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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Where I'd the " half taken is wicked earth's population" get it's beginning? It HAS to be rooted in the notion of Jesus proverb of eagles and corpses. Nothing in there, save the wicked people destroyed by the flood, indicates those taken one are half earth's wicked population. Half earth's...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Look closely at Mat 24, and ask yourself if Jesus is telling half of earth's population (The theory of supposedly " wicked taken" in a wicked rapture),to watch and be ready for the LOF. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding...
  3. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    No he did not.
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    There are several points of interest that also make the wicked taken troublesome. Because we have 2 men in a bed, one is taken the other is left. ( according to Jesus) So, if I'm gonna say in the group that half is taken, we have an Antichrist satan worshiper in bed , (A theorized wicked man)...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Another Dynamic of that preflood gathering would be to look up the word taken in the Greek and then look up the word left in the Greek. It 100 percent supports taken to a good place and left or abandoned, which would be bad.
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Who are the ones taken.? Exactly who? Half of Earth population taken pre flood to what location? Remember , I debunked the theory that the wicked are ALWAYS taken first. Jesus Said first gather the wheat and put it in my barn, but the tares gather them and burn them in the fire. The one taken...
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    Hidden in plain sight: Why I believe this about the Revelation

    I had to put him/her on ignore. I am not here to converse with silly people. I found myself shaking my head at every sentence
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    Hidden in plain sight: Why I believe this about the Revelation

    Just pretend Jesus didn't say what he did in mat 24,and mat 25,and don't bother with rev14. Then you can do something creative with acts1 and rev 14, make sure you omit the 2 escape verses,and pretrind noah and lot were delivered POST FLOOD,AND POST FIRE. you will be fine. (in your little...
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    Hidden in plain sight: Why I believe this about the Revelation

    You know, I asked you a question twice, and you went into some deal" you mean you need some verses changed...." You did not even engage ANYTHING, ..and then you get silly insane in telling me "you keep side-stepping and this game of yours is going on too long because you just ignore the...
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    Hidden in plain sight: Why I believe this about the Revelation

    Maybe take one verse. Because the pretrib rapture doctrine is vast. Certain components need to stay in the bible. We need romans 11 unmolested. We need the 144k unmolested We need the AC killing all refusing the mark intact And others. Give me one of your power points ( for example; the...
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    The "Obama" Antichrist Dreams, Part 1

    There were many many pointers that led many to think he was the AC I had my eye on him like a hawk. He is definitely a freak of "nature" Untold mysteries surround him. But he is MOST ASSUREDLY Forerunner of the AC. Just the deception of Americans alone was frightening. But more so, because he...
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    Hidden in plain sight: Why I believe this about the Revelation

    I 100% agree with the fact we are PROMISED trib. But if you can not differentiate between what we see in daily life and what happens at the 4 horsemen riders,then join SI in the amil doctrine. They definately have no clue on the difference. Establishing the difference between the trib we...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You had it right the first time. Nobody but the righteous taken preflood Nobody but the righteous taken preSodom. Nobody but the righteous taken when Jesus was taken to Egypt.
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    VULTURES

    Postrib rapture. No verses to support it.
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    VULTURES

    Where are people "tares" burned? You trying to say the rapture is after the mil at the GWTJ? You are unaware that the tares and wheat are harvested together then separated? Jesus even tells you that angels gather OUT OF HIS KINGDOM. That is THE MILLENNIUM.
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    VULTURES

    Luke 3 17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable. Postrib doctrine has mat 13 as a talking point. That point is that the wicked are ALWAYS GATHERED FIRST. The verse in Luke...
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    Hidden in plain sight: Why I believe this about the Revelation

    Is there a verse pointing to a postrib rapture? Chapter and verse?
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    VULTURES

    Luke 3 17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable. Looks like the "tares gathered first" doctrine is poorly thought out. We are told " he ALWAYS gathers the tares first" Nope...
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    VULTURES

    In ALL THAT you need the setting given by Jesus removed. Your doctrine has the setting REVERSED from Jesus setting.
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    The analogy Jesus made is historical fact mixed with rapture pretrib ingredients. Those ingredients are my focus , as was Jesus focus. You can reframe it. But those ingredients are still there. Note the " before the flood" ingredient. Note the "half taken" ingredients. Note the normal life...