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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Peter recieved the REVELATION that the Gentiles were included in the new covenant. Why do you twist it and muddy it up? Acts 10 34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: 35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh...
  2. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Jesus said "before the flood, one taken, one left" BEFORE THE FLOOD. JESUS said BEFORE THE FLOOD BE READY. JESUS SAID ONE TAKEN ONE LEFT. Before the flood Ahem..... 50% of that group taken ALL postribs are forced to ascribe that group of those taken to the world's population. I just shake my...
  3. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    The " one coming" dynamic is debunked solidly.
  4. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Mat 25 Rev 14. You have no case at all I will go with scripture.
  5. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    More garbage. Peter 100% knew the gospel Men have taught you heresy.
  6. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Just keep believing all those verses I posted are not relevant. Jesus gave 2 comings in mat 24.. Too bad you totally missed Jesus words. So as usual you have said nothing at all. In Rev 19 he comes in power and great glory with the saints who arealteady in heaven, while you ascribe the...
  7. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Man that is so bogus. That hyper Pauline doctrine is really sacrilegious heresy. Jesus is neutered James is neutered Peter neutered Book of Rev neutered. Sick men invented that doctrine. It is a nasty mess.
  8. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Really? Acts one Rev 14 Mat 24 Mat 25 The 7 letters of rev The last supper dialogue 1 thes 4 The escape verse by Jesus. You say those verses are fantasy?
  9. rebuilder 454

    Hidden in plain sight: Why I believe this about the Revelation

    The "back and forth", and challenges are nice. Debating concept vs concept. The going personal, of some, is getting too tedious. Like running into a spider web is a requirement to engage then. I prefer Intelligent back and forth.
  10. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    So your position is a rapture at the GWTJ After the mil?
  11. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Rev 14: 14 has Jesus returning to harvest Jews with no sudden destruction. Zero
  12. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Oh..so you spiritually explain away what you decide? Who is left? The spirits that aren't really there but are told to "get ready to stay"
  13. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    What part of me reading " Before the flood" causes you deflection? What does amil do with a gathering before the flood?
  14. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Oh wait.. Are you amil?
  15. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Nope Jesus said preflood gathering. You reframed it to after the mil. According to Jesus: 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. When you turn the "before the flood gathering"...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Question. Has anyone ever seen a postribber quote Luke 3, Where Jesus says that the righteous are gethered first? I just shake my head because. It has nothing to do with the rapture whatsoever, because in every single case, It's talking about tares being burned in the lake of fire. The GWTJ
  17. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    The wicked are burned at the GWTJ. After the mil. Jesus said the harvest is "THE END OF THE WORLD" How can Posttrib rapture twist 20 dynamics to cling to the "one taken is wicked"? I will stick to the bible.
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Luke 3 17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable. Jesus said the wheat gathered first. What does it prove? It proves Jesus threw the "ones taken are always wicked first:"...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    If you mentally unpack it then every trumpet is exactly the same. Are there eagles at Armageddon...yes Are the ones taken before the flood wicked.? Some torture 6 dynamics to make Jesus telling the ones raptured, "be ready for eagles to eat your dead bodies."
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You just pointed out they were harvested together. THEN SEPARATED Your example is AFTER THE MIL. AT THE GWTJ. SO far you are unable to make a case for the wicked gathered first.