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    THE GOSPELS ARE NOT NEW TESTAMENT

    Ok. That is "hyper Pauline only" talking points.
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    THE GOSPELS ARE NOT NEW TESTAMENT

    You Are partially right because it is the death of the testator that brings into existence the Testament. But you cannot say that none of the Gospels are New Testament because the Bible says the law and the prophets ended with John. So John represents the ending of the old covenant. Jesus advent...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Well the challenge to you or any postrib is to unpack Rev 14:14. You still have not interpreted it. (but bless your heart you half heartedly tried 3 or 4 times) But since you haven't looked at the verses supporting the Jewish harvest, i guess we can just see it as it is.( doctrinal postrib...
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    All that rabbit trail wasted energy. The challenge is to unpack Rev 14:14. Instead of taking a calm sane approach you go into wild attack mode I get a chuckle out of the corner you guys painted yourself into. It's like I challenge you about a clutch in a 5 speed truck and you go bizerk over...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Now we know the "bow component" is multifaceted. Remember...you heard it here first.
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    I did a little investigating. Your timing of the "covenant with many" is key to your timeline. Did you know God made a covenant with a BOW? The covenant rainbow. God said I will put my bow in the sky. The white horse rider covenant bow. 7 year trib 7 yr 70th week. Mid trib the AC installs...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Someone said over 1/4 of the NT is prophecy. Is it all nonsense? Nobody is forcing you to be in the room.
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    We certainly agree here
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Yes Every component in those verses is pretrib. Ask a postribber to unpack it and the virgin parable. You need a calculator to count the components they change in those 2 examples. Mind boggling, the postribber error
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    The crown explanation you have put forth is weak. "Julius Caesar's crown is called a laurel wreath or corona triumphalis. It's a wreath made from bay leaves (Laurus nobilis) and was worn as a symbol of victory and importance. " The crown Jesus wore was imagery of the king of the Jews. He was...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    you are actually talking to amil spirit. A totally different bible.
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    MESSAGE TO THE SEVEN CHURCHES SARDIS

    The pretrib rapture
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Ahem...Rev 14:14 is not the rapture of 1 thes4, nor can it possibly be the second coming of Rev 19. ( make you a file named " the impossibility and goofiness of the " one coming" lie) Subtitle it ...(the verses those teachers failed to mention) So not only are you wrong, you have a doctrine that...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    It this late hour so many are clueless as to what is being set up to happen. The times of the Gentiles ending is upon us big time. The rapture, the temple rebuilt, the left behinds slaughtered and then onward from there. Deception Un paralled in earth's history. The first is last....last is...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    If the bride /groom component is back burnered, the panoramic picture is lost. Same with the 3 targets. 1 the gathering of the bride 2 the gathering/ purchase of Gomer 3 the throne of David re established. Hardly anyone has the knowledge of the central cores of end times.
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Way too much labeling that does not make any difference, unless we need some verse modified. Like Doug said; call the 7 yr period most anything you want. But the AOD happens in the middle of A SPECIFIC BRACKET OF TIME. PERIOD. I call that 7 years; the gt.. the trib... Jacob's trouble. All fit...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    Good idea. I am old Been debating end times for almost 50 years. "The wrath " "Prewrath" "Great trib as the last half".....Are all modern inventions. Pure confusion and rabbit trals. My view is "panoramic" and "end times " in its entirety. Not brackets that do not fit the panoramic picture...
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    I would say so. He comes as a world leader. Takes power right away. His job ( main job I should say) is to wipe the Christians from the face of the earth.
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    The Rapture and the Tribulation - Short

    White horse rider is the world leader. Nimrod bow. A crown A Messiah A conquer...(of Christians.) THAT begins the trib. Jacob's TROUBLE IS 7 YEARS LONG. the first captivity was 70 years. (Babylon)
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    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    QUOTE ""Who’s Paul talking about? Not ethnic Jews — Gentiles being grafted into the covenant by faith."" Wow I can tell you right now you have a severe compression problem. Now you have the Gentiles cast off of the branch, and cut off for the sake of the Gentile church, but those Gentiles...