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    Limited atonement !

    Heb 2:9 says He tasted death for everyone. It makes it possible for Him to have people believe in Him and have an eternal existence. I John 2:2 says not just for our sins but the sins of the whole world. Well, our sins that Paul references is about the elect, but the rest covers the world...
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    Limited atonement !

    Ah, so your theology does not need to be consistant. You can pick and choose certain texts or deny most texts of scripture when it does not align with your theory. Explain just how your non-elect could be risen? They were not part of the "all mankind" of I Cor 15:12-22 or I Cor 15:52-53...
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    Limited atonement !

    Could you explain to me in vs 18 when it says, as through one man's offense judgement came to all men resulting in condemnation, Now if it is as you say that this is speaking about the elect, where are all those who did not come under the judgement of Adam. Are they still alive since they...
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    Limited atonement !

    That is exactly what he is saying, vs 13 could not be more clear. If those verses are not clear to you, then drop down a few, I Cor 15:21-22. It is an equation.
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    Real Faith vs Broken faith

    That might be even worse. He was the first to make this claim. You are either ignorant of the history of OSAS, or you want to take credit for yourself. But you have not produced any text that supports this idea that a simple one time, mental ascent of faith, finitely grants a person...
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    Limited atonement !

    I'm not sure what answer you are agreed on, I assume post 346. If that is correct the explanation of Rom 5:18-19 is incorrect. But that notwithstanding, there is no such thing as limited atonement.
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    Limited atonement !

    You obviously do not understand the ramifications of your own theology. His gift of salvation is offered to every human being. Heb 2:9 is objective. He overcame death for every human being and no man can reject it. His sacrifice for sin is also offered to all mankind, I John 2:2. This second...
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    Limited atonement !

    What I don't understand why some use words that even scripture does not use. What I have been saying very clearly, as an opposite to the false teaching of limited atonement, using Brightfame52's theology compared to what scripture actually teaches. The text used is I Cor 15:12-19, The words...
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    Limited atonement !

    If you believe it only for the elect, then what I stated is NOT a misrepresentation of your theology. As per scripture, if all the dead are not raised, then Christ is not risen. Your theology does not require it either. If you think it does what scripture could you use to support that Christ...
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    Real Faith vs Broken faith

    You may have adopted it from another false teacher, namely Calvin who is the originator of OSAS. Born again happens when one believes is baptised, and receives the Holy Spirit and enters into His Kingdom. That is a one time event, however it does not mean saved, it does not even guarantee one...
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    Limited atonement !

    Not to be picky but..... Adam brought death to all men, not sin. Christ brought life to all men. Heb 2:2 or I Cor 15:21-22
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    Limited atonement !

    I know, but He does not know that. He doesn't understand his own theories to be able to understand the ramifications vis-a-vie what scripture actually teaches.
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    Limited atonement !

    There is a difference between being true to your personal theory, however as to scripture it is a false teaching.
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    Limited atonement !

    I believe that, but Brightfame52 theology does not.
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    Limited atonement !

    You keep saying this but have no evidence to support such a theory. You need to change words like 'All" to mean some or in some cases to "elect". Even "world" to mean "elect". Even dictionaries do not give such meaning to these words. A rhetorical question. Do you believe in a resurrection of...
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    Real Faith vs Broken faith

    Which is your interpretation. It does not balance with the historical witness of the Holy Spirit through time in preserving His Gospel for all time. You are correct He saves us through our faith. But man must remain faithful. Your status with God does not become final until your death. I...
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    Limited atonement !

    You develop a straw man then proceed to knock it down. Your question - "is it really true that Jesus gave His life to save absolutely everybody without exception? The Biblical answer is two fold. Yes and No. One must understand Christ performed two things from His Incarnation and resurrection...
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    Real Faith vs Broken faith

    In checking the history of the Church from the Apostles to present day, I find no record of the view that a believer cannot lose their faith, and thus eternal life. The entire NT, covered in every single Book speaks about a believer remaining faithful. Belief is always in the present tense...
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    Real Faith vs Broken faith

    You have not presented a logical, rational explanation of what you believe. All I got is you don't believe in baptism. You believe that once saved always saved. So, where is your view found in scripture?
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    Limited atonement !

    So, you do have trouble with the English language. As you did before with other words, you use the same definition for every use of a word in every context. You do know that context determines use and meaning of words. In this case "things" means elect. Every time you interject your own...