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    Real Faith vs Broken faith

    But where is your evidence on your view other than your personal spin? Is it your very own personal interpretation? Why are you posting about things you don't know anything about. Who says it is Satanic lie, You? None, I'm not actually interested specifically what Catholics believe unless you...
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    Limited atonement !

    Why keep digging the hole you are in deeper. Maybe I should ask if English is your first language?
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    Real Faith vs Broken faith

    So, instead of presenting your biblical evidence you resort to innuendo and false statements. this may be your belief, but it is not how the Gospel was preached and practiced from the very beginning. Scripture says otherwise. John 3:5, baptism is by water and the Spirit. Rom 6 is called...
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    Limited atonement !

    Explain to me Col 1:20 who was left out from EVERYTHING WAS GIVEN TO CHRIST. Also, every human being will be called by God without exception. Rom 1:18-24. However, those that come to Him in faith, He will not cast out. Why would He, He desires that all men repent, believe. II Pet 3:9 But...
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    Limited atonement !

    The more correct way of saying your statement would be... Christ died for mankind. The objective was to save the world from death and then to be able to have communion with man, gaining believers through faith and forgiveness of sin. As for the Calvinist, theologically, this is precisely...
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    Real Faith vs Broken faith

    He became the sin of the world. Not one believer at a time. A believer becomes 'righteous" through belief, repentance and baptism. We share in His death and resurrection through baptism. Born again, means one was baptised, We do receive His righteousness each time we confess our sin...
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    Real Faith vs Broken faith

    There is a lot to unpack here but I think you are using the phrase "made righteous" incorrectly. to be made righteous it to be made right, or acceptable, other synonyms that are used interchangeably are justify, reconcile. For example, scripture uses it to describe Christ Christ...
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    Limited atonement !

    I'm not sure what you mean about elect being objective. Under Calvinism, limited atonement, is an impossible event based on who Christ is and accomplished. Here is another way to say it that might make it more clear. If the dead, that is speaking about all the dead, No one will escape...
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    Limited atonement !

    So you keep saying, but the context is not about believers at all. It is actually about the dead and how they got to be dead, and overcame death. The context of I Cor 15:38 -44 is all about the manner of resurrection. The next vs 45 - 49 is about who resurrects us, and vs50 - 53 is about the...
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    Limited atonement !

    Precisely. That is what I Cor 15: 12-19 is very specifically stating. When Calvinism teaches that Christ Only DIED FOR THE ELECT, it means He died for nobody. Christ either became man, took on our human nature and defeated death for all men, or He did not and Christ becomes just another...
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    Limited atonement !

    Well, you are using another Calvinist to support your theories. The above paragraph is a totally misunderstanding of scripture. It nullifies who Christ actually is and what He actually accomplished. He does not help your cause.
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    Limited atonement !

    Very simply. Read I Cor 15:12-22. If the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. If Christ is not risen, our preaching and faith is empty. Those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. If Christ did not defeat death, the world and man will simply be dissolved by death. We will...
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    Limited atonement !

    If hell exists in your theory, how did it come about. Again, I'll superimpose your theology on scripture and say the following. Christ didn't die for any sin, It will not be possible according to what you believe. You missing the key that makes what Christ did valid. You keep denying who...
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    Predestinated to Salvation !

    No, I accept Bible Truth. Your issue is you do not understand the Truth. Not only does scripture teach the opposite of your personal theology, but many have pointed that out to you.
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    Limited atonement !

    Even if so, as I stated but you apparently don't understand what predestination actually accomplishes. Question, why would He need to pray for someone to believe, when He already determined that they are believers.
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    Limited atonement !

    No, those that believed and remained faithful, have no sin and will be judged accordingly. There are a lot of believers that were believers but are no longer, they fell away. If you think there is a hell in your theology then explain from that vantage point how it could exist? When one...
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    Predestinated to Salvation !

    No, God did not mean it to happen. God foreknew it would happen, and used it to His glory. Just as Judas was not predestined to betray Jesus, God knew that Judas would do this and used him to fulfill a prophecy.
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    Limited atonement !

    A lot of words but all based on an incorrect assumption of the word "predestinate" Very simply, It says, "For whom He foreknew....who did He foreknow. God is omniscient, thus He knows all things. He knows who will believe, thus He does not NEED to predestinate. However, He did predestinate...
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    Limited atonement !

    Another butcher job on a context. You are correct in that vs 20 is about future believers, However the whole context of vs 20 - 23 is being directed at the Church. Up to this point He has not prayed for any general believers. First section: vs 1-5 Jesus is praying for Himself, vs6-19 He prays...
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    Limited atonement !

    It proves He died for them. Your missing the connection I pointed out to you. Vs 33 even uses the word "hell" from Jesus's own mouth. He could not have spoken about condemnation or hell, unless He died for them. They are rejecting his call to repent and believe. He does not say that He is...