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  1. Ernest T. Bass

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    Rom 7:7 says nothing about men being unable to obey God for we have many examples in the Bible of men obeying God's commands. Verse 7, the OT law required perfect, abosloute perfection in keeping the law to be justified by it and Paul is pointing out that Jews and Gentiles needed to be...
  2. Ernest T. Bass

    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Rom 6:16, the choice put before all is to either be lost by serving "sin unto death" or be saved by serving "obedience unto righteousness". I have chosen to serve obedience unto righteousness by obeying God's righteous command to be water baptized for the remission of sins.
  3. Ernest T. Bass

    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Salvation occurs at the time one is water baptized for when one obediently submits to water baptism, it's then God does the work of removing the body of sin, Col 2:11-13. God therefore has chosen water baptism, (not a sinner's prayer, not by faith only, not by Spirit baptism) but water baptism...
  4. Ernest T. Bass

    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Christ saves, so the issue is who does He save and why. Nowhere does the Bible say Christ saves men randomly nor does He save men unconditionally. He saves those that CONDITIONALLY obey Him (Heb 5:9) by being water baptized. The BIble puts obedience (repentance, confession, baptism) BEFORE...
  5. Ernest T. Bass

    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Christ saves but He saved those who obey Him (Heb 5:9) by being water baptized (Mk 16:16) hence in that sense water baptism saves. That's why Peter in Acts 2 told them to "save yourselves" and they could by obeying Peter's command to be water baptized. Acts 22:16 Saul could "wash away thy...
  6. Ernest T. Bass

    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: You cannot change the "w" in the word 'now" to a "t". You simply rewrite the verse to force it to...
  7. Ernest T. Bass

    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    ----in 1 Pet 3:20-21 Peter says baptism saves. Regardless of what the resto f the verse or context of the BIble says, NOTHING changes the fact that baptism saves, baptism therefore is the means by which God has chosen to save men. --- v20....saved by water (flood) v21....saved by water...
  8. Ernest T. Bass

    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    I'll debate/discuss with you what the BIble says about baptism but not debate the things you keep making up out of thin air. You CONTINUE to define baptism in a way the Bible does not. When will you admit what the BIble says when it says water baptism saves and therefore salvation is...
  9. Ernest T. Bass

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    Context matters and you keep ignoring the context. As shown you many times, in the context of Jn 15 Jesus was speaking to His Apostles that He chose them to that office they did not choose themselves. Calvinists CONTINUE to take this verse out of context in order to read their false idea of...
  10. Ernest T. Bass

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    "Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.” It says YOU BELIEVE hence Jesus gave THEM the work of beleiving to do. You are calling me a liar when you are the one who has closed you eyes to the truth and have taken out your Calvinistic...
  11. Ernest T. Bass

    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Those that deny the Bible's teaching on the necessity of water baptism define water baptism in ways the Bible does not in an attempt to undermine its necessity. God commands men to be water baptized therefore being water baptized is sunmitting in obedience to God's will yet some on this forum...
  12. Ernest T. Bass

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    The term baptismal regeneration means different things to different people. I do NOT believe in baptismal regeneration as a sacrament as Catholics do.... "Is the doctrine of “baptismal regeneration” scriptural? In order to answer such a question, one first must define precisely what he means...
  13. Ernest T. Bass

    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Water baptism in the name of the Lord for remission of sins was not available under the NT law for Christ had not yet shed His blood that remits sins (Heb 9:22). All they had under the OT law was the blood of bulls and goats that could not remit sins..For it is not possible that the blood of...
  14. Ernest T. Bass

    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    The Bible does not define water baptism as a 'sign' and nothing more. Water baptism is the means God has chosen to saved men. There is no baptism of the Holy Spirit today for the one baptism (Eph 4:5) in effect today is water baptism. Nowhere was anyone commanded to be baptized by the Holy...
  15. Ernest T. Bass

    A Test Of Reading Comprehension and Honesty

    God draws men by His word (Jn 6:45) when men have been "taught" "heard" and "learned" then man of his free will cometh unto Christ. The thief was not living under the NT therefore he was not drawn by the gospel for it was not yet in effect therefore he was not accountable (Heb 9:15-17) to it as...
  16. Ernest T. Bass

    A Test Of Reading Comprehension and Honesty

    The thief is not an example of NT gospel salvation for us today for the thief did not live inder the NT (Heb 9:15-17)therefore not ameanable, not accountable to Acts 2:38; Rom 6:3-5; Rom 10:9 as we today are under the NT. Paul was under the NT therefore had to be water baptized per Acts 2:38...
  17. Ernest T. Bass

    A Test Of Reading Comprehension and Honesty

    "obedience unto righteousness" Rom 6:16 "Obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine, being then made freed from sin" Rom 6:17-18 Obedience to God is how one is made righteous in the eyes of God. Disobedience/wrong doing never made one righteous.
  18. Ernest T. Bass

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    The yoke of bondage refers to the OT law of Moses. That law required the Jew to keep all of it perfectly in order to be justified by it, therefore it made the Jew a slave to that law. They were not able to bear that slavery showing none could keep it perfectly. This does not in anyway prove...
  19. Ernest T. Bass

    Is believing/faith a work ?

    The issue is how the term 'water' is used in Jn 3:5 and not how water is used in other contexts. In Jn 7:39 the context there clearly points out that water is being used figuratively. Proper interpretation does NOT allow taking a figurative meaning from one text then liberally apply that...
  20. Ernest T. Bass

    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    How can water baptism be a necessity but not a requirement? They are the same thing. The fact water baptism has been commanded by God, that command makes is a requirement, necessirty if for no other reason. Necessity - a noun, the fact of being required or indispensable (Oxford) Requirement -...