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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    LOL, You are so wrong...that was exactly what Christ was telling His disciples. You are grasping at straws to avoid the obvious nature of Christ's statement. The Mount of Transfiguration was NOT Christ "coming in His kingdom" with the angels, and dispensing rewards to everyone according to...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    Yes, He did, according to His own promise that there would be some of those He was speaking to during His earthly ministry who would not have died before He came in the glory of His Father with His angels, to give rewards to everyone according to their works (Matt. 16:27-28). I believe Him...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    You are incorrect. The Full Preterists NEVER teach that Christ BODILY returned in AD 70. When the Full Preterists teach that Christ never planned to return bodily to this planet at all to bodily resurrect His saints, this truly IS false teaching and complete heresy. This false teaching is...
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    What is the mystery that Paul references in 1 Corinthians 15:51-52? Is it the rapture (catching up to Christ) as pretrib teaches or something else?

    Of course, there is no 2,000 year gap anywhere between Matthew 24:21 and Matthew 24:29. The Great Tribulation which was promised to fall on those in Judea and Jerusalem in that first-century generation was the same generation who also experienced the bodily return of Christ "IMMEDIATELY AFTER...
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    LOCUSTS From The Book of JOEL

    You are not correct on the identification of the CLAY in the feet of Daniel's statue. Isaiah 64:8 tells us who the CLAY was. Speaking of his own people, the ethnic nation of Israel, Isaiah said, "But now, O Lord, thou art our father; WE ARE THE CLAY, and thou our potter; and we all are the...
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    LOCUSTS From The Book of JOEL

    Of course Christ's return was visible back in AD 70. Zechariah 12 tells us that it would be those ancient tribes and families of Israel who would be doing that mourning in Jerusalem when they saw Christ's return (which was going to be to the Mount of Olives location). Revelation 1:7 repeats...
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    LOCUSTS From The Book of JOEL

    No, a third coming of Christ does NOT contradict the scriptures you are submitting here. The Hebrews 9:27 verse says nothing either one way or another about a third coming. It doesn't prove a third coming, and it doesn't disprove a third coming. All it does is mention a second appearance of...
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    LOCUSTS From The Book of JOEL

    In Daniel's image, there are no other one-world governments that successfully establish themselves once the "stone" kingdom of Christ strikes that image and reduces the entire thing to dust on the wind. That single blow was already struck back in AD 70. The "stone" kingdom is currently...
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    LOCUSTS From The Book of JOEL

    That's okay that you don't get my points...for the next person down the line that does take things seriously, it just might make perfect sense.
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    At our physical death, the spirit "returns to God who gave it" (Ecclesiastes 12:7) to deal with it as He wills. The spirit of humans and that of angels has an origination point from God Himself. But neither the spirit of humans nor of angels inherently possess an eternal character by...
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    You should take note that from Ezekiel 28:11-19, the particular "Prince of Tyre" addressed there was pronounced "PERFECT IN THY WAYS from the day thou wast created till iniquity was found in thee." This is NOT something that could be descriptive of a human "Prince of Tyre". The human "Prince...
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    Spirits ARE capable of being destroyed. They are not inherently eternal in character. God creates the spirit, soul, and body of all mankind. Paul expressed his desire in 1 Thess. 5:23 for his Thessalonian readers that their spirit, soul, and body would be preserved unblameably in the...
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    LOCUSTS From The Book of JOEL

    You are then disagreeing with how God defines the fulfillment of an "AT HAND" prophecy in Ezekiel 12:21-28. Yes, Revelation 1:19 does speak of past, present, and future prophecies in relation to John's time. But those prophecies concerning the present AND the future were then "AT HAND" for...
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    LOCUSTS From The Book of JOEL

    I agree that the "mello" term can sometimes mean the emphasis on the certainty of something intended to happen instead of its imminence. But that is not the majority of the use of this "mello" word in scripture. As usual, context is the main key. And Revelation 1:19's context concerning...
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    NOT TRUE. Isaiah 27:1 predicted that God would slay that Dragon. Ezekiel 28:18-19 predicted just HOW God would slay Satan, the formerly "anointed cherub" which fell into iniquity. God said He would bring a fire out of that fallen cherub, and reduce him to ashes upon the earth in the sight of...
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    Lucifer AKA Satan

    F2F, your caustic style of posting replies doesn't help in making your case. We get it that you don't believe scripture speaks of fallen celestial angels. We are disagreed on this point, but just because I think you are mistaken doesn't mean I think of you as a liar. All of us as believers...
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    No, the "greatest trick" is that the institutional church has convinced people that Satan was never slain by God as He had promised to do, so that "never shalt thou exist anymore" (Ez. 28:18-19). That fallen "anointed cherub" who had been in Eden was burned up and reduced to ashes on the earth...
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    Of course, the Greek word for "angels" can be used for either a human messenger or a celestial messenger. Just one example is a reference to human "messsengers" (angelon) being sent to Christ from John, asking if He truly was the Messiah. (Luke 7:24). It depends on the context as to which...
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    The human "children of the devil" (as Christ termed the Pharisees) can be present on earth without their "father" the devil still being in existence. But you have the wrong definition of the "second death". Scripture calls the "second death" the Lake of Fire. These were the conditions in the...
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    LOCUSTS From The Book of JOEL

    I am not focusing on the "meta" term. Scripture's emphasis in Revelation 1:19 is not just on the "meta" term, but on the "mellei" term, which tells us just how soon those future events would transpire. "Write therefore the things that you have seen, and the things that are, and the things...