Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. D

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Why are you including this---and the abomination of desolation was standing in the holy place)? What AOD standing in the holy place allegedly in the first century pertaining to the 2nd temple? What would that have looked like to them at the time? It has to look like something to them if when...
  2. D

    Can a tare become saved?

    In Matthew 24 Jesus places that in the beginning of great tribulation. The beginning of great tribulation is not the end of the world meant in Matthew 13. I don't know why this subject is being brought up since it has zero to do with the end of this world in neither Luke 17 nor Matthew 24? But...
  3. D

    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Matthew 25:14 ¶For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. 15 And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his...
  4. D

    Can a tare become saved?

    The following are solely my thoughts and conclusions except I let chatgpt rewrite them for me in order to at least be easier to follow, if nothing else. And this is in regards to the parable of the net in Matthew 13, that this allegedly proves the tares are meaning all the lost in general...
  5. D

    Can a tare become saved?

    Though, you have a valid point here, how do you get past all of the following then? Matthew 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field: When this is initially true, the following isn't even true yet...
  6. D

    Can a tare become saved?

    And look at the contradictions that went away by understanding these things in this manner. By sticking to context and by sticking to reality, since there is no such thing in the agricultural world where tares can somehow be transformed into wheat, now repentant atheists, for example, can be...
  7. D

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    What we have to keep in mind here, that works both ways. Well except in @Spiritual Israelite case. He is obviously an exception in this case. He always seems to be able to find ways around things others are unable to find ways around. The fact I do take verse 14 to be meaning the end of this...
  8. D

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I submitted the following to chatgpt to get it's opinion. -------------- Me: An interpreter is arguing with another interpreter who insists dual fulfillments are found in the Bible and that this other interpreter is arguing against the concept of dual fulfillments in the Bible. This same...
  9. D

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I appreciate your honesty by admitting that you would be unable to make sense of verses 15-21 if verse 14 is meaning the end of this age.
  10. D

    Can a tare become saved?

    If tares are meaning the lost in general, it then contradicts the following, for example. It's not unreasonable that a practicing atheist, for example, can become saved if he or she were to denounce atheism and accept Christ instead. Obviously then, since that is perfectly reasonable, therefore...
  11. D

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I'm not really familiar with that concept, a dual fulfillment. I know what a 'type' means, but is that the same thing as a dual fulfillment? I'm guessing maybe no. I'm not stalking you, lol. I just can't figure out why, since you are not a Preterist, and that Preterists don't interpret Matthew...
  12. D

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    In the Romans 1:8, Romans 16:25-26, and Colossians 1:5,6,23 passages you submitted earlier in this thread, there is zero mention of the 'end'(telos) in any of those verses nor in any of those chapters. Therefore, Paul is not interpreting Matthew 24:14 in any of those passages, you are. Except...
  13. D

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    I don't agree with his interpretation of verse 14 and 15. At least he doesn't have Jesus being all over the place like your interpretation does. Your interpretation has Jesus focusing on the end of this age in verse 14 then in verse 15 He is once again focusing on events not even relevant to...
  14. D

    Can a tare become saved?

    Now if only you could leave 70 AD out of some of these things. 70 AD can't explain everything.
  15. D

    Can a tare become saved?

    You have things backwards. Judas is the son of perdition and that he is lost. In 2 Thessalonians 2 the 'Wicked' is meaning the man of sin, it is meaning the son of perdition. Look up the Greek word used for 'Wicked' in that chapter. In not one verse where that same Greek word is used elsewhere...
  16. D

    Can a tare become saved?

    The context is the kingdom of God. Not everyone is in the kingdom of God. Certainly, satanists aren't, atheists aren't, nor are unbelieving Jews, to name a few. The only ones in the kingdom of God are the professed saved. Some interpreters apparently think everyone in the world are in the...
  17. D

    Can a tare become saved?

    You prove without a doubt that it matters zero whether or not one can keep their emotions contained. Clearly, you can. No one denies that. But even so, still there are many of us that don't agree with you about everything you conclude. There are some in here that don't agree with anything you...
  18. D

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    It's an AI, and that it can somewhat reason with you via interactions with it. Lately though, I'm not conversing with it that much anymore. But not that I was doing that all the time to begin with. I'm kind of burned out on that now. I'm thinking about using chatgpt for something else, such as...
  19. D

    Can a tare become saved?

    Though, it is primarily about the end of the age, there are these parts, below. Why isn't verse 25 significant? Have you never even bothered to think about any of the following? Do you just interpret things sometimes, keeping in mind I said sometimes not all of the time, without actually...
  20. D

    Can a tare become saved?

    Some interpreters simply don't get that if Jesus is using real world imagery to make a point, the point has to match the imagery used. Why does Jesus use real world imagery to begin with? Since He is the one that created man and provided man with common sense, He expects us to use it. He expects...