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    Can a tare become saved?

    In Matthew 13:24-30 we have the parable of the weeds, then in verses 36-43 we have the explanation of the parable. The Amil view has Satan bound from deceiving and keeping people in darkness during a current millennium. If Satan is bound and unable to deceive then it would seem to be possible...
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    If the vessels of dishonor can become saved then is it possible for a tare (children of the wicked one) to become saved also?
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    John 8 took place under the OT before Satan was bound, Ephesians 2 takes place under the NT when Satan is bound, right?
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    No I don’t, because I believe this took place during the OT. However, you have it taking place during the NT. If the children of the wicked one can’t be saved then Satan still has the power to keep them in bondage and darkness. Do you think the children of the wicked one can be saved or not...
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Yea, let me go with what @Davidpt said, you are defining Satan’s binding as a condition put on him. Is that correct? If so then that condition can’t be present when Satan sows the tares, here’s your statement on what the binding of Satan is … “It has to do with spoiling his house, destroying...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    Well, let’s take a look at that. In Daniel 7:13-14 the Son of man is given dominion, glory, and a kingdom. It seems pretty straightforward that Christ was given the kingdom just after the cross. In Matthew 28:18 Jesus said all power is given me in heaven and earth. This statement was made...
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Ok, let me put it this way, Satan is bound in the bottomless pit during the millennium. Whatever that pit is, and I’m guessing it’s a spiritual place not a physical location, that is where Satan is during the millennium and Satan can’t go beyond the boundaries of the bottomless pit during the...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    So the servants are the apostles? I think that could fit but in the parable there are only ten servants and at least one of those servants was a wicked servant and had any authority over a city that he might have gotten removed. The twelve thrones in Matthew 19:28 doesn’t quite seen to fit with...
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    All who are not taken up to meet the Lord in the air when He comes will be left behind and killed.

    I’ve been following this thread and I agree with how you’re looking at these things, the context of the parable of the Minas isn’t about the reward. What are your thoughts on the servants receiving authority over cities though? In the parable of the minas there are ten servants, we know the...
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Matthew 13:38 but the tares are the children of the wicked one John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men Hello! Matthew 13:41 and they shall gather out of His kingdom all things...
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    I’m not arguing that the tares were saved, only that they were in the kingdom prior to them being purged out by the angels. The point is the same old covenant field was sown by Jesus and Satan. You have Satan in the bottomless pit during the new covenant so how do you suppose he would...
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    This points to a harvest occurring in 70AD, the end of the old covenant age, when the old decaying covenant finally vanished. How do you explain the present tense verb Jesus used in the parable about Him sowing? Right, that’s why the kingdom was purged of the tares. Nobody could be saved by...
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    They got in just as Matthew 23:13 says … Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. The tares were sown into His field which could only...
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Prior to the gospel being preached, prior to the cross, people entered into the kingdom through the old covenant rules. That is how the tares got into the kingdom, after the cross the new covenant came into force and the only way to enter the kingdom from then on was by water and Spirit.
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. In this verse we have the kingdom be taken from the chief priest and Pharisees. Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for...
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Matthew 13:41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, The angels gather out of His kingdom, so somehow the tares got into His kingdom without being born of water and Spirit. Wouldn’t it make...
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Well, I agree God does allow evil things to happen to saved people, people who are in the kingdom, but I don’t think the tares represent evil events, they represent children of the wicked. According to John 3:5 a person must be born of water and Spirit to enter the kingdom.
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    Right, I agree, the farmer never lost possession of His field. Saying the tares enter the kingdom at the very end of the age, when the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of our Lord, creates that problem of the farmer losing His field then getting it back. Another way the Amils are...
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    The tares are sown in His field. Does Jesus loose possession of His field then regain it again?
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    The end of the world, as taught by Christ, separates the wicked from the just at the harvest, and it is coming for you.

    I agree, the tares are pulled out of the kingdom at the harvest, end of the age and I also agree there are only two conditions of mankind, either saved or unsaved. John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the...