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  1. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    In your opinion. I know. <smile> But opinions and facts are possibly two very different things. But, yes, me, too. <smile> Grace and peace to you.
  2. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    I have not. Now, I could call you a liar, but that would be inaccurate, because I think you actually believe what you are saying, or at the very least in the case you really are lying here just a one-off, which in my book wouldn't qualify your actually being a liar. <eye roll> Again, I would...
  3. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    Nope. Hmmm, well the gold cup, The Light, is full of abominations and the impurities of her sexual immorality. And yes, the woman is adorned with the false "royalty" of this world, I appreciate your opinion... and have no problem with anyone calling what I have said my opinion. Grace and...
  4. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    Yeah, as long as people agree with you, then that's productive, and there's no reason to get all ticked off and call them "clowns" or "idiots" or "have poor reading comprehension skills" or treat them with various other means of disrespect, right? <smile> Grace and peace to you.
  5. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    Nope. Nope. Well, the "worldly city" is global in a sense... really of the world and not of God, and that has always been true since the events of Genesis 3, but that's what will finally be set right, when God makes all things new. Goodness gracious. Grace and peace to you.
  6. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    Well, the big picture painted in those fantastical images are what is important to "see." Yeah... I mean... Okay, a good analogy is that... well, first, in Proverbs, what has to be understood is that the hearer is an impressionable young man. Solomon says that wisdom is what is to be desired...
  7. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    LOL! Well, yes, but a literal woman cannot either... <smile> Unless the mounts are stacked on top of each other, I guess... LOL! Sometimes, yes... <smile> Maybe it's a good idea to stay away from any derivation of the word 'symbol,' and just read certain parts of Scripture as they...
  8. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    Well, not solely. <smile> They are merely the first, immediate iteration of what is "seen" in John's vision. Ugh. <smile> As I said, the five who have fallen represents an indefinite number of previous emperors... even up to now. The presence of the sixth indicates in symbolic fashion that...
  9. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    I'm going to join in the conversation (if it can be called that) here. <smile> Whether I stay in long I will determine later; for now I'll keep my options open... <smile> I think you mean the ten horns, here, The Light. So yeah, the number ten goes back through Revelation 17:7 and 13:1 to...
  10. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    I have never said anything to you like some of the things you have said to me or other posters here... or used the same sort of "manner" you often do either with me or with other posters here. nor would I. Have I been perfect? No, of course not. But the record is clear. Yes, let's get back...
  11. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    That's not what was talking about. But he probably is offended to some extent, as evidenced by the fact that he often responds in kind, returning evil for evil. It's like a never-ending tennis match in a dark sort of way... <smile> Pish. The record is clear. I will certainly stop short of...
  12. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    I'm not doing anything of the sort, SI. I was very all-inclusive with my comments: "the same can be said of us all" "not aimed at anyone in particular but applies to us all" "for any one of us to attribute that to and/or to disparage or tear down any one here..." "How we conduct ourselves..."...
  13. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    There's a lot of that going on here, and "they" are not the only ones guilty of that, which was at least one of my points. Sure, but for any one of us to attribute that to and/or to disparage or tear down any one here is terribly sinful, which, again, was at least one of my points. Again...
  14. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    You know this, SI, but "spiritualized" is made out to be ~ in those streams of thought ~ essentially synonymous with "not real" and/or "not literal." Which is surely not the case. They... think they do. <smile> And that's fair enough, the same can be said of us all. This comment is not...
  15. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    John says in 1 John 2:18, "you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour." That's true of the sixth and seventh only. As I said, the four horsemen of 6:1-8 represent conquest, war, famine, and death. These calamities...
  16. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    Nope. LOL! I'm just saying that "close" and "near" to us is very different than "close" and "near" to the Lord. To you. Yes, I understand. Not "missed," but dismissed, because... what you see is not there. LOL! You had many chances... The record is clear. Wait... I missed the qualifier...
  17. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    As I have said many times ~ all the times that I have said it... see what I did there? ~ there is no "rapture," but yes, Jesus will return, not at "the end of wrath," but at the end of the period of tribulation... after that period has come to a close. But still ignore or deny it... <smile>...
  18. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    The "rapture" is but one, and the idea of a rapture spawns a multitude of others in the effort to support it. He was not. And so is Jesus. The term 'many' can mean a portion or a fraction of all, but it can actually also mean all, depending on the context in which it appears. Daniel's...
  19. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    I'm reading the same Bible you are. The difference between you and me is that I don't add things to it. There is no "rapture"... that's one of the additions I'm speaking of. Charles Darby did a lot of damage... There were some good things that came out of the Enlightenment, but the things he...
  20. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    LOL. Yeah, fair enough; me, too. <smile> Wait... I thought you were going with God... <smile> <eye roll> Only what dispensationalists have mistakenly read into scripture. No, I didn't "forget" anything... <smile> As Jesus says, "an hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear...