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  1. PinSeeker

    Can a tare become saved?

    After Adam, who acquired that condition in the events of Genesis 3, all are born that way. As Paul says, "just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned..." (Romans 5:12). He's speaking of Adam, of course, who was the...
  2. PinSeeker

    Can a tare become saved?

    Hmmm... "not possible to misunderstand The Cross of Christ and God's Grace and not be a Legalistic Heretic..." That's... quite a mouthful... <smile>. I disagree. All that's needed to be "actually a Christian" is faith as a mustard seed. No one in this life is perfect in knowledge; true...
  3. PinSeeker

    Can a tare become saved?

    Hm. Not even sure what would compel you to make such a comment. I would just say that it is certainly possible to misunderstand these things with and not be a "legalistic heretic," Grace and peace to you, Behold.
  4. PinSeeker

    Can a tare become saved?

    LOL! Well, okay... <smile> I hope no one is arguing what you're saying, David. I'm not anyway... Yes, if anyone does not continue in His kindness ~ which is the same as what Jesus speaks of in John 6, 8, and 15 regarding abiding in Him ~ then yes, certainly, he or she will be cut off...
  5. PinSeeker

    Can a tare become saved?

    I don't believe there is anything in Scripture that enables us to say Judas was not saved. Yes, Jesus said, "one of you is a devil" in John 6:70, and He meant Judas. But in the sense in which He said that, we can all be "devils" in that we are still capable of sin and can still certainly do...
  6. PinSeeker

    Can a tare become saved?

    Right, and Who enables us to persevere to the end, David? By Whose power are we kept to the end? Those who are born of God and thus in Christ will not fall away. The answer to the above questions ensures that. We have been "born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ...
  7. PinSeeker

    Can a tare become saved?

    Sure. For those who are in Christ, he/she will overcome. But what is said there in Revelation 3:5 is still true. As the apostle John says, "For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world ~ our faith. Who is it that overcomes the...
  8. PinSeeker

    Can a tare become saved?

    Hmmmmm.... very interesting. In a sense, I agree. That sense is this, that we are both saved and are being saved at the same time. This is the simultaneous "now and not yet" of the Gospel. Is this what you're saying? We have not yet obtained the outcome ~ which is the salvation of our souls...
  9. PinSeeker

    Can a tare become saved?

    David says, "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my mother conceive me" (Psalm 51:5). This is true of us all. And Jesus says to a group of Jews in John 8, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and I am here. I came not of my own accord, but he...
  10. PinSeeker

    Can a tare become saved?

    <chuckles> Grace and peace to you, RockerDuck.
  11. PinSeeker

    Can a tare become saved?

    I don't think anyone here is asserting that, David. It is absolutely not teaching that, because falling away... which would be to altogether lose faith, which is given to us in salvation... it is the assurance of God and conviction by the Spirit (Hebrews 11:1)... is impossible, because the...
  12. PinSeeker

    Can a tare become saved?

    Ouch... <chuckles> Grace and peace to you, Triumph.
  13. PinSeeker

    Can a tare become saved?

    Right... Hmmm... I both agree and disagree with this, in certain senses... I mean, as Job finally says to God in Job 42:2, "I know that you can do all things, and that no purpose of yours can be thwarted." God is always in control of what happens anywhere and to everyone, both making things...
  14. PinSeeker

    Can a tare become saved?

    Hmmm, well, it's impossible, period. Right, GB? I mean, Hebrews 11 says, unequivocally, that all who are saved are saved the same way, through faith, regardless of Old or New Testament times... from Abraham on up... through faith, which is the gift of God (Ephesians 2:8). So yes, and we know...
  15. PinSeeker

    Can a tare become saved?

    Well, there will be no crossing the line, right, Rocker? Everyone is a child of the devil at birth, but for some, at some point ~ when they are born again of the Spirit ~ that is no longer the case; they are then children of God. So the answer to the question posed in the original post ("can a...
  16. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    I did say ~ and this should be sufficient ~ that the woman is adorned with the false royalty of this world (biblically, purple is the color of royalty), and as you probably know, the Romans, in taking Jesus to His crucifixion, dressed Jesus in a purple robe, mocking His claim to be King of the...
  17. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    I can't help what you read ~ misread, I guess ~ into any comment I make. And even then, it seems that before you would jump to such a conclusion, you would ask me to clarify. But, at this point, you have no idea how much I don't care. I can't blame you for your perceptions... or...
  18. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    Nope. Ah, stop right there. Again, I will say that holding that God "forces anyone to be saved," insinuating such a thing to be true, or asserting that I hold such a position either inadvertently or intentionally is without merit altogether. It had absolutely nothing to do with you. You're...
  19. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    Opinion (yours) is... See above (Post #694). I have, but not to your satisfaction, obviously, which is, too bad, I guess, but it is what it is. Grace and peace to you.
  20. PinSeeker

    The Coming Rapture

    LOL! I said this in response to your... question... to me regarding why I can't admit something. You said (and I quote), "...your doctrine gives them an excuse. Why can't you admit that?" And my response to that was that if I said that, that would be a dumb thing for me to say. That had...