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  1. St. SteVen

    The Bliss of Religious Homeostasis - Don't Rock the Boat

    Can you really add the word "godly" in front of terror to nullify the terror? Seems that it is still terror. Isaiah seemed to manifest terror. “Woe is me! For I am lost; for I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the...
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    Answering Twelve Challenges to Universalism

    Here are the questions: 1. “How should we interpret Jesus’s words regarding ‘hell’ or ‘Gehenna,’ ‘the outer darkness,’ ‘the fire that is not quenched,’ ‘the worm that does not die,’ and the like?” 2. “If hell is a temporary state but heaven is a forever state, then why are both denoted by the...
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    Is the Bible outdated for today?

    How in-touch is the Bible to today's issues? Are we still running a 1950s church social program in our churches? How do we deal with today's issues? Is this talked about, or supported at church? (I don't mean just an opinion from the pulpit) [
  4. St. SteVen

    The Bliss of Religious Homeostasis - Don't Rock the Boat

    No snipping, but certainly an indication of a translation problem. Do we need a decoder ring to read and understand the Bible? It says "fear" but means something else? Furthermore, your testimony about when God passed by indicates some level of terror. And to be honest, I know that "fear"...
  5. St. SteVen

    The Bliss of Religious Homeostasis - Don't Rock the Boat

    Thanks for posting your article. If I am afraid of something I avoid it at all cost. (so to speak) If it is a person, they would likely use a threat of violence or extortion to get what they want from me. That seems like a terrible characteristic to saddle God with. IMHO I understand where you...
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    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Wow. What is the name of the cult? So, anyone who disagrees with your opinion is in a cult? - LOL [
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    That undoes what you wrote in this previous post. So which is it? Which came first? - Human conscience - The law https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/observations-about-the-law-the-law-gods-law-christs-law-four-different-things.57502/ Romans 5:13-14 NIV To be sure, sin was in the world...
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    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Evidence indicates that the outpouring at Pentecost didn't happen in the upper room. More likely in the Temple courts were they met. People from 14 languages heard them declaring the wonders of God in their own tongue. Is that possible from the upper room? Acts 2:5-12 NIV Now there were staying...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Do you break the fourth commandment? The Sabbath. [
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    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    That's not what Jesus said about it. See below. Weren't those in the outpouring at Pentecost already "born again"? It seems you are conflating the Baptism with the Holy Spirit and conversion. Acts 1:4-5 NIV On one occasion, while he was eating with them, he gave them this command: “Do not...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    St. SteVen said: Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. So, only those in parables take their inheritance and enter "the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world." ...
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    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    We disagree on this point. Any believer today has the authority to do kingdom business. IMHO God still does the work, we are a conduit. If we can lay hands on the sick or injured, we can impart the Holy Spirit. To clarify, the Holy Spirit is unpredictable, He may work of His own accord...
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    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    That's a good question. And to be clear, I said you were taking the position of a Cessationist. Did an Apostle lay hands on you to receive the gifts? In post #62 you inferred that was the only way. Perhaps I misunderstood you? Please clarify your position, thanks. [
  14. St. SteVen

    Seeking Justice - Hiding in Translation - The Righteousness Connection

    From the OP. Justice - Hiding in Translation "When I first started studying what the Bible said about justice topics, I thought I knew exactly how to find them: search for the word “justice.” But there’s a problem with looking for justice in the New Testament. If you type “justice” into a...
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    The Case for Eternal Security

    Matthew 25:34-36 NIV “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to...
  16. St. SteVen

    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    You are taking the position of Cessationism. The manifestations of the Holy Spirit are alive and well today. (or I should say, alive but not particularly well today, due to unbelief) Jesus had the same problem in His hometown...
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    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    From the OP. Why hadn't the baptized believers in Samaria received the Holy Spirit? They were water baptized believers in the Lord Jesus. - There was evidence that they were believers. (as stated in the text) - There was evidence that they had been water baptized. (as stated in the text) -...
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    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    I'm not aware of the people in Samaria spreading the gospel like the apostles. Here's something to consider. The Baptism with the Holy Spirit can be rather unpredictable. - After the outpouring at Pentecost it seemed to come automatically with water baptism. (3,000 water baptized) - In Samaria...
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    What is the difference between the indwelling Spirit and the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Only in the sense that making disciples requires a renewed relationship with God. The Holy Spirit indwells the new believer. The water baptized believers in Samaria WERE indwelt with the Holy Spirit. This is the reason for this topic. When the Apostles were informed that they had not received...