Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. Timtofly

    Revelation - chapters 19 and 20

    Saying there are unsaved during the Millennium is not Biblical, nor logical. That would be like saying Eve was unsaved, but Adam was saved. You say Eve would be unsaved because she was deceived. Adam could not be deceived therefore, elect abs saved. Neither were in a condition of salvation...
  2. Timtofly

    Revelation - chapters 19 and 20

    There is nothing in Revelation 19 about the resurrection of unsaved dead. How can you add that to the context of all are dead and Satan is bound? You claim this is a first century event. When were the unsaved dead resurrected and judged (cast into the LOF) in the first century at the same...
  3. Timtofly

    The two witnessss

    You don't call the Vatican the little horn, but you still claim the authority is the Vatican, and not Jerusalem. Hardly any difference. Jerusalem is the city of power and influence that the 10 future individuals will go through and cleanse away every human religious connotation, to leave pure...
  4. Timtofly

    The two witnessss

    This is not describing great tribulation. The 6 Trumpets describe great tribulation. The 6th Seal is the baptism of fire at the Second Coming. It has nothing to do with sci-fi nuclear weapons. The stars coming to earth are the angels coming to earth per Matthew 13 and Matthew 25. The...
  5. Timtofly

    Revelation 13 - the sea and the earth beast

    This thread is about Revelation. Why would I not post about that book? It is your loss, that John saw a clearer picture of the entire history of mankind, than Daniel did. You have to move on from the limited 5th century BC mentality, that only gets you to the first century AD. Telling...
  6. Timtofly

    Revelation 13 - the sea and the earth beast

    Or it could have been Constantine, an actual individual from history instead of the office of the pope. Who really cares, as that happened over a thousand years ago? The point is there was a 5th kingdom, not a 4th kingdom, and then a 4.5 kingdom. That all was over and dead when the 6th...
  7. Timtofly

    Revelation 7: 4-8 The 144000

    Which verse claims they physically died?
  8. Timtofly

    Revelation 14:1 What is going on here?

    I did point out the chapters in Revelation. You should probably read chapter 7, 13, and 14 to get the context. Lazy people need the words spelled out in every post. People who study Scripture, should already know what those chapters say. I thought everyone knew that Revelation 11:15 was the...
  9. Timtofly

    Revelation 14:1 What is going on here?

    This is Jesus and the 144k waiting in heaven, during the 42 months of the 8th kingdom, which are happening on earth. In Revelation 13, these 144k and Jesus were defeated symbolically, because God was not done redeeming mankind, after Jesus was declared the 7th World Kingdom. The 7th Kingdom...
  10. Timtofly

    Revelation 13:17-18 (666)

    So then you come from a Preterist position that all of Daniel or 90% was completed 42 months after the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ? That is not what Revelation declares, nor can you prove your point from Daniel. The 4th kingdom was the two legs, not the two legs and two...
  11. Timtofly

    Revelation 13:17-18 (666)

    The little horn person already existed in history. It is not some future person, or John would have mentioned that person in Revelation. You have argued that Satan cannot be a head as that is one individual. Now you claim an individual is one of the heads? The only individual or head left...
  12. Timtofly

    Revelation 13:17-18 (666)

    The two feet and ten toes is the time from the 5th to the 15th century. Even you state there was a different Rome than your pagan Rome. Your second Rome is the 5th kingdom, not a continuation of pagan Rome. The sea beast has 7 heads, not 4. The dragon has 7 heads, not 4. The scarlet...
  13. Timtofly

    Revelation 13:17-18 (666)

    Daniel saw 5 empires "rise out of the sea", as you put it. Daniel did not see the 6th head nor 7th head as John described in Revelation 3 different times. The 5 nations of Daniel 2 lasted until the Reformation. That is when the church (the body of Christ), not the RCC, destroyed the statue...
  14. Timtofly

    Revelation 13:17-18 (666)

    The little horn was a dead person, not a 5th beast kingdom. The 5th kingdom was made up of the ten toes and lasted until the 15th century. There have been no beast kingdoms since the Reformation. The 5th kingdom is dead as of the 15th century. The 6th kingdom has a mortal wound, thus...
  15. Timtofly

    Revelation 13:17-18 (666)

    They are not any more or less the same entity, any more than Nebuchadnezzar and Babylon are the sole interpretation of the sea beast. The sea beast is made up of 6 earthly kingdoms over time, including the 5 from Daniel 2. You will never get Revelation correct, because you deny Daniel 2 has...
  16. Timtofly

    Revelation 13:17-18 (666)

    The ten horns in Revelation 17 are not about historical Rome, nor the ten horns of Daniel 7. The 4th kingdom of Daniel was destroyed and the 5th Kingdom took it's place, and the 5th kingdom was also destroyed at the Reformation. We have been in the dead 6th head/kingdom since the...
  17. Timtofly

    Revelation 13:10 - the earth beast

    The sea beast is covered in Daniel 2. The sea beast are the first 5 kingdoms found in that chapter. Babylon, Medes and Persians, Greece, Romans, and the Holy Roman Empire. All having some governmental connection with Jerusalem, and Israel. The earth beast is Satan, who is referred to as...
  18. Timtofly

    The two witnessss

    I never said the ai sets up anything. I said the ai controlled nuclear device would make a nice statue. Then when it is brought online, and starts thinking for itself. Is when humans realize it is too late for them, in your sci-fi scenario.
  19. Timtofly

    The two witnessss

    Nope, that cannot be. You are stuck in the Reformation, reformed ideology, that was pitted against the Catholic church. That is as bad as saying the beast is Israel. Jerusalem is not the city, nor is Rome a city sitting on 7 physical hills, which equate to 7 dead humans. Hills are hills...
  20. Timtofly

    The two witnessss

    You are not paying attention. They are both. "And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth." Mountains are kingdoms. Jerusalem did not sit on 7 Roman Empires. Jerusalem had relationship with 7 earthly kingdoms, each having a...