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  1. Timtofly

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    No, only the beheaded are raised at that time. The dead in Christ were raised years prior to the beheaded even loosing their heads. You are as bad as Amil lumping the resurrection of the beheaded at the same time as the resurrection at the Cross, and the rapture. Neither the Cross nor the...
  2. Timtofly

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    When did Turkey fight against Syria?
  3. Timtofly

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    They don't have to be buried at all. They could be placed immediately into the LOF. John is not explicit either way. The beast and false prophet are placed in the LOF. Why would their marked followers not receive the same judgment? These people enter the LOF, and as far as we know never...
  4. Timtofly

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Amil overlook the first judgment that happened a thousand years prior to the GWTJ. Revelation 20:4 "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them." Amil, according to your metric, that Scripture does not have to be explicit, should say that Jesus sits in...
  5. Timtofly

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Revelation 20 is not a spiritual event. People literally march across the earth "in protest". Why would God kill people physically for just thinking about a spiritual objection?
  6. Timtofly

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Based on that reasoning, Ezekiel could have been fulfilled, and they missed it. So would you if it happened in your lifetime. You would not understand an OT fulfillment, just like they would not understand Jesus. The only reason you accept the NT is because the church wrote down the events...
  7. Timtofly

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Neither of your options are viable, nor Scriptural. Do you accept that the LOF is even a physical place? You claim the GWT is not even a physical event but symbolic of God's Judgment. There is only one resurrection and it is physical. If the GWT Judgment and the LOF are not physical...
  8. Timtofly

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    No. The redeemed don't stand at the GWT Judgment event. They are not "the dead".
  9. Timtofly

    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    What is with the 2 resurrections? Humans call it birth, not resurrection. Will no one give birth, or be born during this thousand year period? Gog and Magog would be considered the last few generations born in the last few hundred years, at the furthest point from Jerusalem, as after 800...
  10. Timtofly

    Revelation 20:6 "The First Resurrection" Explained

    That is an erroneous interpretation of those verses, and John 11:25-26. Only the OT redeemed "fell asleep in death". They waited in Abraham's bosom, and were all resurrected at the Cross. Those redeemed since the Cross do not fall asleep, nor are in death, period, once the soul leaves this...
  11. Timtofly

    Revelation 20:6 "The First Resurrection" Explained

    And you twist that Hebrew word to mean all the dead from all of history. That is not what Daniel wrote. All who are dead at that moment in time. Daniel did not write "all the dead from all time". So "many" does mean "all" at that moment. All the dead that are still dead. Now if you claim...
  12. Timtofly

    Is Ezekiel Chapter 39 In The Gog/Magog Battle Future And Unfulfilled?

    Resurrection does not have to wait until a certain hour. Jesus is not still dead waiting for that hour. No one since Jesus who has entered eternal life, is waiting for that hour. Those waiting since the Flood, or before Moses, may be waiting for eternal life. You all forget to include the...
  13. Timtofly

    The two witnessss

    It was is Paul's future, and happened the day his soul left Adam's dead corruptible flesh. Paul did not take corruption with him to heaven.
  14. Timtofly

    The two witnessss

    What Scripture states those with eternal life are still dead somewhere?
  15. Timtofly

    Revelation - chapters 19 and 20

    No, that is how it works now. After the Second Coming, life will not be the same as now. All you have is a post millennial view, that things will not change until after the thousand year reign. If all of Israel is changed, and no longer in a state of death, then all Gentiles will be as well...
  16. Timtofly

    Revelation 13:17-18 (666)

    Of course they are seperate books, but they are about the same historical kingdoms from Babylon until Jesus' millennial kingdom. Daniel does not explain Revelation, and Revelation does not explain Daniel. Only you are making that claim, that you interpret Revelation using Daniel. Daniel...
  17. Timtofly

    Revelation 7: 4-8 The 144000

    What you call the "end of time", will last for over a thousand years. While your "end of time" started 2,000 years ago; this future end of time will also last for hundreds of years. Personally, I would not call the Second Coming, "the end of time".
  18. Timtofly

    The two witnessss

    Are you denying the millions of redeemed who have died in the last 2 millennia since Jesus died on the Cross, and rose again?
  19. Timtofly

    Revelation - chapters 19 and 20

    No, that is not the point of the Millennial Kingdom. The point of the kingdom is obedience. Life is not the result of obedience. Death is the result of disobedience. Currently we are born as dead. We need to be obedient to obtain life. In the millennium, all will have life, equally...
  20. Timtofly

    Revelation - chapters 19 and 20

    None are partitioned as saved or lost. All are exactly the same. All can be deceived, but not all will be. It is Satan who suddenly appears, not humanity. People will be deceived because they listen to a new thing coming from Satan.