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but he said that it applies to believers AND unbelievers.... And I agree when they believe they are given eternal life. But faith is also a gift from God.

So unbelievers will as well be in heaven?

This only refers to the people whose hearts God chooses to open. All KINDS of people; ALL walks of life will make up the kingdom of God

Precisely. It's like saying "All lemons, every last lemon.... EVERY lemon is sour" and the someone saying "HA! SEE?!?! All fruits are lemons!!!" Um.... no? Just because all lemons [whosoever believes in him] are sour [will have eternal life] does not state in any way that every fruit is a lemon.

John Parkhurst makes very little sense with his interpretation: "believers and unbelievers" .... let's plug that definition in, shall we? "The [if both believers and unbelievers alike] believe in him shall not perish... Wait. How can unbelievers be believers? Unbelievers by definition do not...

Exactly. Mankind. Any human KIND of person from any walk of life. God does not look at a poor man and say "nope he doesn't meet the criteria to be elect because he's poor" or "Oh nope sorry, my elect can't have that skin color" ; God invites all men without racial, background, monetary or any...

While I do believe that 3:16 does not mean EVERYONE EVER [the word in the greek is "all that", which is true. All the believe in him will not perish] However, I do not believe that the elect of God are a small group - I personally believe that the elect will outnumber the unelect in the end; I...

Because Christ told us to. Anyone who needs any more reason than this should seriously back up and examine themselves.

Much truth is missed by people interpreting everything as literal.

As it was preordained before the beginning of time. ;)

Well whadayaknow...

Nuff said.

If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

.... Did you read the rest of the post? I'm assuming not. I was being facetious. And yes, we are all at one time or another goats. We're born in opposition to God. All we like sheep have gone astray, turning each to his own way; and the Lord lay upon Him the iniquity of us all. Now...

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At the same time, Christ said to hate your brother in your heart is to commit murder. So, at least my understanding, is that there is a fineness line between murder and hate. I believe this is what Christ was illuding to. If you have already DECIDED in your heart to murder, actually planned out...

Interesting question! To understand this, we have to first look at mans unserdtanding, and then at Gods For mans justice system, hating someone is not a crime. The act of hating someone in no way does any lasting physical damage, and cannot be proven in a Cort of law. Therefor for mans...

Yes I agree! The only salvation to be found in the law and commandments is the fact that CHRIST KEPT THEM FOR ME!! That reason and that alone is why I strive (and fail, but still strive) to observe His commands! That is also why I DONT observe the ceremonial laws. They were fulfilled in and...

Hey that's ok!! I'm not ANYONE to be demanding others agree! (With the exception of if their soul is on the line! I cannot just stand idly by as men race themselves over the edge and into the pit.) I am curious to know your position, if you feel like sharing?

World here means ALL MEN!!!! ... That is to say, regardless of ethnicity. The point of saying things like "the whole world", "all men", etc... is because you have to understand that, at the time, Gentiles were considered a lost cause. Israel(Jews) were the people's of God, Gentiles were...