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  1. St. SteVen

    What makes a doctrine false?

    You've made some good points. Thanks. The purpose of the thread was to illustrate how intolerant of others we tend to be. [
  2. St. SteVen

    Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)

    Very informative, thanks. What do you suppose Adam understood about the two trees? [
  3. St. SteVen

    Why I love the Bible

    Yes. Not sure if "celebrating" is the right word. (I'm in recovery) It has definitely stuck with me. Things I still agree with and things that I don't. [
  4. St. SteVen

    What makes a doctrine false?

    St. SteVen said: so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous Not what it says. Through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. Not true. All will believe. Everyone who has knees to bow and a tongue to speak, in...
  5. St. SteVen

    What makes a doctrine false?

    Who wrote these words? Romans 5:18-19 NIV Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. 19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also...
  6. St. SteVen

    Why I love the Bible

    Catholics are not harmless in this respect when considering their attitudes and actions against the Orthodox Churches and Protestants. [
  7. St. SteVen

    Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)

    Wouldn't that have led him to protect her from eating? --- PARODY --- Serpent: Did God really say... ? Eve: He said don't eat and don't touch. Adam: Oops, my bad, I said don't touch. Eve: What?! God didn't say that? !!! Adam: No, I added that because I know you like to touch things without...
  8. St. SteVen

    Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)

    Why the change in motivation? I wonder what would have happened if he refused to eat after his wife ate. [
  9. St. SteVen

    What makes a doctrine false?

    That would be... 5. YOUR "Bible" says it is false. (other biblical opinions don't matter) [
  10. St. SteVen

    Why I love the Bible

    Well... "switchblades" might be a bit unfair. - LOL But I get the point. (pun intended) [
  11. St. SteVen

    Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)

    Again, do you see any indication that Adam was aware of any of this? Your position seems to be that Adam was fully appraised and willfully (with full knowledge) chose "Works" over "Grace". What need is there of grace prior to a transgression? I don't think Adam even understood what physical...
  12. St. SteVen

    Why I love the Bible

    Agree. But they do have a history. Especially when the scriptures were not available to the populace. [
  13. St. SteVen

    Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)

    Is that what Adam said when God confronted him? (nope) ... “The woman you put here with me—she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.” - Genesis 3:12 NIV Perhaps, but did Adam understand this? [
  14. St. SteVen

    Why I love the Bible

    That's an interesting point. I can see assets and liabilities on both sides of it. On one side the believers have a relationship with a tyrannical church. On the other side believers have a relationship with God but you have 10s of thousands of denominations. (the oppositions says, "They...
  15. St. SteVen

    Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)

    Do you believe that Adam understood all this and chose Works anyway? Or was he ignorant and deceived? [
  16. St. SteVen

    Why I love the Bible

    Agree. But there is a difference between inspired and inspiring. God can speak through a donkey. Agree. That being the case, how can we claim infallibility? [
  17. St. SteVen

    Why I love the Bible

    What view have you arrived at then? [
  18. St. SteVen

    What makes a doctrine false?

    What makes a doctrine false? Please quote what you would like to respond to. Thanks. 1. You've never heard it before. (knee-jerk defensive response) 2. You have heard of it before, but assume it's false. (haven't looked into it) 3. Doesn't align with your church's doctrine (your church...
  19. St. SteVen

    Why was "the Tree" placed in the center of the garden (orchard)

    The forbidden tree placed where it had to be confronted often. Why was the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil placed in the center (midst) of the orchard (garden) of Eden? Interestingly, Adam and Eve had to be deceived to "eat thereof". It seems they had no intention of eating from the...
  20. St. SteVen

    Why I love the Bible

    Question: Which English translation of the Bible is inspired by God? (it seems that not all the translations agree word-for-word) [