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And your reply does not bang your drum? Does it validate your view and being glory to God? Do you see many posts saying "I know I am wrong about this, and I'd like someone to teach me?"

No sir, it was made up by the Gnostics of the early church in Rome.

I, at one time, had a much more difficult time understanding scripture. I learned over time that my view of scripture was because I lacking the mind of a 2000-year-old Jew. There are cultural differences that affect how scripture was written that mess with our minds, but would not be a complex...

Well, there is difficulty here, because man wants to put Yahweh into a box that limits Him and His creation as to how it operates. When God established the Garden of Eden by the power of His spoken word, it was good and not yet cursed. Who among us knows what that garden was like back then...

Quite right that some passages seem to contradict. In our English bibles it does happen, because man has not been able to give a translation unaffected by held doctrines and desires of the translator. Solving those issues can be difficult. I personally believe that no doctrine should ever be...

Well, sir, I checked. What I found out about the word presented "vision" was: ὅραμα, ὁράματος, τό (ὁράω), that which is seen, a sight, spectacle: Acts 7:31; Matthew 17:9; Nothing told me that this is a synonym for "occurrence." I also found: 2 Pe 1:16–18 For we did not follow cleverly...

I see that it is difficult to comprehend that passages are directly pointed to the person or group to which they are addressed. It is so common for people to claim that every passage is intended for them personally. I see this kind of interpretation all the time. I think you may be pushing a...

Most people will choose to believe whatever makes them comfortable whether it is true of not. Scripture passages are usually not accepted when they disprove a belief. I find it ironic that, while claiming that all scripture is "God breathed" with one side of the mouth, the other side apparently...

I find these to be interesting statements. Where did you get them, please?

I do appreciate your posts. So many of those is churches, that I am aware of, claim to believe something when they never "search the scriptures to see" if it is even true. Some of them hold office in those churches and claim knowledge that they cannot defend either. I've seen this to be true...

Your accusations reveal much more about you than it does about others. I use our Father's name because His scriptures do, and it keeps me focused on who really said what. I use His Son's name because there are many in our country now names Jesus. I stay focused on the specific person who was...

No, I accept that "in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." Would you accept that God is light? They earth was in darkness, until God provided light. During the first three days of restoring the earth, God was there providing the light, and on the fourth day, he had the sun...

What would it be like in here if we spent less time telling people they are wrong based on the doctrines we have been fed and more time asking questions about a person's understanding? A closed mind gathers no knowledge. If we ever want to know what doctrines cannot stand on two legs, find...

I will insert myself here for a brief statement: I think brainwashing is proved when a person who holds a doctrine that they cannot support in the face of scripture than disproves it. Many Christians fall into this category now.

My first foray into thinking for myself was the topic of baptism. I read what scripture said and then I listened to what a church believed. Their doctrines did not mesh well at all, and I got verbally raked over the coals by a preacher that responded with "well, I see what your are saying...

First off, I approach these forums as discussions more than debates, but I know that is how they end up. I am left thinking that you did not pick up on the word definition for vision in the page I posted. I certainly did NOT prove your accusation that I was "translation shopping." I would hope...

Thank you for responding. I'd like to call attention to Gen 1, verses 1 and 2: note that they state "in the beginning." They do not state when the "beginning" took place. Then we are told that it was covered in water and nothing was on it. So, I view these verses speaking of an existing heavens...

I really want to believe that you are attempting to prove your point with these verses and not trying to simply waste time. The verses you list here prove nothing about Yeshua being "fully God." So, since you bothered to answer, I took the time to look them up to see if I were missing something...

No, but it adds clarity to the mind and understanding. In the land of Israel, names were important. They should be to us as well.

I have looked before, but I have not found a passage that says "Earth was made first." Perhaps I missed it?