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  1. Wick Stick

    Do all here know America is bankrupt?

    The correct term is "insolvent," rather than "bankrupt."
  2. Wick Stick

    Can a believer be a part of the Body of Christ without being water baptized?

    I'm not sure they ought to be separated. The word "salvation" confuses the issue because we use the word differently than the Bible does. In the Bible, salvation is a state of being that directly results from an active practice of obedience to God. By that definition, I don't think the two...
  3. Wick Stick

    What does the hell doctrine say about the character of God?

    I think perhaps it says more about the character of the people in churches.
  4. Wick Stick

    Can a believer be a part of the Body of Christ without being water baptized?

    Can you be adopted without an adoption ceremony? Yeah, but that isn't what usually happens.
  5. Wick Stick

    When the Son of Man Comes:

    Yes. Amo 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
  6. Wick Stick

    Are you sending your neighbors to Hell?

    That's simply not true at all. Nothing is lost that Christianity requires. Maybe we should take stock of exactly what would be lost? Young Earth Creationism is lost. Genesis would still teach creation, just without the silly insistence that the world is 7000-ish years old. Can't say I'd be...
  7. Wick Stick

    How many baptisms are there? Just one

    Ok, but is it speaking of more than one kind of baptism, or is it talking about the same one type of baptism being performed on multiple people? I think it's the latter. If I say that I performed 3 adoptions that doesn't mean they were three different kinds of adoptions, it means I did the...
  8. Wick Stick

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    I think if there is belief (A), then God will bestow the Holy Spirit (secret letter D), and then the water (B) becomes a bit of a moot point.
  9. Wick Stick

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    The original says though faith, but faith (aka belief aka repentance)... it is a part of baptism.
  10. Wick Stick

    How many baptisms are there? Just one

    Immersion is for the church. Immersion is meant to be a recognition by the church that they have received a new adoptee. It makes clear who is "One of Us." The baptizee doesn't receive a direct benefit... only an indirect one from his association with the group. Repentance is for the convert...
  11. Wick Stick

    Are you sending your neighbors to Hell?

    You don't seem to be recognizing those patterns very well. The book of Joshua, where Jericho's walls fall, is not written as a history, but rather a collection of short stories. Are the stories based on real events - probably. But each story has its own purpose. Some of them are there to...
  12. Wick Stick

    How many baptisms are there? Just one

    Yes, water baptism... but there's only one baptism... the water part is about 1/3 of it.
  13. Wick Stick

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Those aren't two different things. Adoption into the church, and adoption by God, are the same. Who is the church if not God's children? Once again, this is a case of describing the same event from two different perspectives. When everything goes right, God works through the church to adopt...
  14. Wick Stick

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    I do, and I reckon many others would like to model their practice of Christianity after that of the early church. Also... yes, that is a validation. If the people who lived in the era Scripture was written interpreted it a certain way... why is your version different? I do believe them; I...
  15. Wick Stick

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    There are 3 words in the New Testament that are all translated into English as "heal." They're not all the same things: The first one describes healing generically (iaomai) The second one describes a miraculous "faith healing" (sozo) The third one describes treatment for a sickness as a...
  16. Wick Stick

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    You speak at least one - English. :p
  17. Wick Stick

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    In a strict cause-and-effect sense I agree, but... Baptism is a ceremony of ADOPTION. The submersion and resurfacing are meant to picture death and re-birth. The idea of being "born again" is that one is adopted to a new Father. So, while the water doesn't directly do anything to save, I do...
  18. Wick Stick

    What is the initial evidence of the Baptism with the Holy Spirit?

    Many early churches practiced a period of instruction and teaching for proselytes before they were baptized, at which point they were admitted fully to the church. You may also remember that there was a theological dispute between those who practiced infant baptism and those who taught that the...
  19. Wick Stick

    "The heavens and the earth" were "created"--"WITHOUT FORM."

    Related historical/archaeological stuff: The earliest form of writing was cuneiform, and the whole Middle East learned it - Sumer, Babel, Egypt, the Hittites, etc. However, cuneiform wasn't a phonetic language - the glyphs didn't correspond to sounds. As a result, while the whole region...
  20. Wick Stick

    "The heavens and the earth" were "created"--"WITHOUT FORM."

    That's the point - God triumphs over chaos.