Search results

  • Welcome to Christian Forums, a Christian Forum that recognizes that all Christians are a work in progress.

    You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

  1. Wick Stick

    Was Jesus Orthodox? (or Baptist?)

    Yes, at first. At some point, they changed their thinking to consider Him as promoting another religion altogether, rather than just a different interpretation of Judaism. It was probably around the time that he called them vipers and insinuated that they were all bastards.
  2. Wick Stick

    Was Jesus Orthodox? (or Baptist?)

    This question is confusing, because the meaning of heretic has changed. In antiquity, a heretic was someone who followed a different path of your own religion. They were generally welcomed and on friendly terms. I suppose when you have actual enemy religions to fight against, the differences...
  3. Wick Stick

    Is the "eternal fire" of Sodom still burning? - Nope

    That's not clear-cut. While Jude 1 describes several events which are clearly in the past, all the verbs there are in present-tense.
  4. Wick Stick

    Is the "eternal fire" of Sodom still burning? - Nope

    9 Edom’s streams will be turned into pitch, her dust into burning sulfur; her land will become blazing pitch! 10 It will not be quenched night or day; its smoke will rise forever. From generation to generation it will lie desolate; no one will ever pass through it again. 11 The desert owl and...
  5. Wick Stick

    Is the "eternal fire" of Sodom still burning? - Nope

    The verses in question specifically refer to the land, and the state of the land as being a ruin. You would know that if you had read them.
  6. Wick Stick

    Interesting that the Bible is "the Word of God", unless someone quotes a translation you disagree with.

    A King-James-Only-ist and an NIV reader arguing with each? That's basically Hitler arguing with Stalin. (kidding... mostly)
  7. Wick Stick

    Observations about the law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law - four different things

    Are we all-in on a hyper-literal interpretation of the story? In a less-literal interpretation, being naked refers to a nation who isn't a vassal to any state - they lack the covering and protection of a great empire. This is the story of a tribe of people who made the wrong alliance, and were...
  8. Wick Stick

    Observations about the law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law - four different things

    Abraham seems relevant. God promised to make him a "father of Goyim." These Goyim are the ones adopted to Abraham, because they already behave like Abraham, and "ye do the deeds of your father."
  9. Wick Stick

    Observations about the law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law - four different things

    Killing is sometimes necessary, but if it is... something has gone badly wrong such that society can no longer tolerate that person even existing.
  10. Wick Stick

    Observations about the law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law - four different things

    If you respond to the bits in small print it leads to awkward conversations. The Star of David, the Seal of Solomon, and the Star of Remphan/Chiun - these are all the same symbol, which also appears all over the world: Remphan is the planet we know today as Saturn... and all the gods...
  11. Wick Stick

    Observations about the law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law - four different things

    Maybe? I was thinking of Acts 7: 41-43 And they made a calf in those days, and offered sacrifice unto the idol, and rejoiced in the works of their own hands. Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel...
  12. Wick Stick

    Observations about the law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law - four different things

    The idea I was given is that it was neither programmed nor innate. The little angel sitting on your shoulder was an outside person (uh... entity? deity?) talking to you. When I looked up the word 'conscience' in ye olde trusty lexicon, I found that the NT Greek does NOT refer to any outside...
  13. Wick Stick

    Observations about the law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law - four different things

    I was always taught that our conscience is external rather than internal - that the conscience is God prompting us, rather than an inborn part of mankind. Quick Bible search says that probably isn't right...
  14. Wick Stick

    Observations about the law, the Law, God's law, Christ's law - four different things

    Interesting. It's not what they taught in Sunday School, but seems to be Biblically-sound. I can think of a couple other places where God "gave over" people to depravity.
  15. Wick Stick

    Genesis as allegory? - History versus allegory

    Yeah, kinda that. But he'll get older and wiser. Hopefully.
  16. Wick Stick

    Genesis as allegory? - History versus allegory

    Yes it does. The verse says "this book." It doesn't say "this collection of books." You have erred by extending the statement to all the books in the Bible. Do you always make up things about people? Are you 12 years old?
  17. Wick Stick

    Genesis as allegory? - History versus allegory

    Abraham made a covenant for (a) protection, (b) wealth, and (c) an heir (Genesis 15:1-3). In exchange, God required of Abraham to (a) move to a land that He would show him (12:1), and to (b) walk before Me, and be thou perfect (17:1). Abraham's belief was reckoned to him for righteousness...
  18. Wick Stick

    Genesis as allegory? - History versus allegory

    (a) That's talking about Revelation (b) The discussion here is centered on parts of Genesis being not-literal, not completely missing
  19. Wick Stick

    Genesis as allegory? - History versus allegory

    We do need parts of Genesis. Abraham and his covenant with God are a foundation stone that cannot be done without. But if Adam & Eve aren't literal, or if the story of the Fall of Man was completely missing, Christianity would be just fine. We would still have "all have sinned and fall short...
  20. Wick Stick

    Genesis as allegory? - History versus allegory

    That's not sound logic. If there were no story of Adam & Eve, we wouldn't have the idea that everything was once perfect or pristine. We would assume that everything had always been messy and error-full. That being the case, there would still be the need for a saviour. Honestly, if you...