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    WAR IN ISRAEL — PROPHECY

    Why did that surprise you? We don’t know who that pharaoh was, but there’s likelihood that he was not Egyptian. The Hyksos ruled around the time of Joseph. Some refer to them as shepherd kings or foreign kings.
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    City of Seven Hills

    At least someone gets it. Mountains are figurative of kingdoms. If you make the hill/mountains literal, then the women is literal riding a literal beast. That’s a biblical oopsie!
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    WAR IN ISRAEL — PROPHECY

    The Thessalonians said the same thing. So did those in WW2. Many Pre-TBs thought since Israel came back in 1948, the Lord would come 70 years later in 2018. That didn’t happen. Now some of them say 80 years from that date in 2028. The Lord gives prerequisites and says watch. No other timetable...
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    WAR IN ISRAEL — PROPHECY

    This is an excellent point. And again, I can’t unsee the comparisons between Rev 19 and Rev 21 as well as Rev 19 and Rev 22. But, that is still a valid point just as much as there being no more death in v.4 and that cannot happen till after the 1k year reign. Here is a question then. How can...
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    WAR IN ISRAEL — PROPHECY

    Your thought?
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    WAR IN ISRAEL — PROPHECY

    Are you suggesting the resurrection of the dead returning with Christ happens after the 1k year reign?
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    WAR IN ISRAEL — PROPHECY

    First, I know I was not involved in this discussion between yourself and @David in NJ but I found it intriguing. Before someone tries to cut me short, hear me out. I’ve looked at that specific scripture and though I have an opinion, I’ve never settled it fully beyond a reasonable doubt. Let me...
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    WAR IN ISRAEL — PROPHECY

    Nope. Satan was not bound. He will be bound once Christ reigns and the man of sin is revealed. It is a biblical impossibility for Satan to be bound in the pit for 1k years until the resurrection happens. Has it happened? No. Has the beast of the sea been cast into the lake of fire? No Has the...
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    WAR IN ISRAEL — PROPHECY

    Satan still roams as a lion looking to devour. Not bound. Satan still deceives the nations into battle like Israel, WW1 and WW2 and every other War for the last 2k years. He's not bound The man of sin hasnt come yet and the resurrection of the dead hasnt come yet therefore, Satan is not bound...
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    When did Jesus receive the Revelation scroll/book?

    Sadly no. Many think he received the scroll in the future and waits over 2k years to receive power, honor and blessings.
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    What will happen soon!

    False prophecy. We won’t know he is here till he reveals himself. Opinions and scare tactics. It’s more likely the man of sin will consider himself Christian My opinion: Babylon is a spiritual city that we need to come out of that houses most of the world. Well, I’d partly agree. 1/3rd of the...
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    When did Jesus receive the Revelation scroll/book?

    When did Jesus receive the Revelation scroll/book? When he ascended and left those that watched a cloud receive Him. He doesn’t wait over 2k years to be rewarded. He was proclaimed riches, power and glory- worthy to receive the scroll because of his death and received it when in God’s...
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    There is no Rapture!

    There is no 70th week punishment. How many times must the Jews be punished? Didn’t Christ die after the 69th week in the middle of the week? That would be the 70th week. Facts!
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    There is no Rapture!

    Are you sure? They are called 2 lamp stands in Rev 11:4 A lamp stand is a church per Rev 1:20 Therefore, they are 2 church types.
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    There is no Rapture!

    There is a harpazo, as you rightly show. The problem is what people say regarding it. 1. The harpazo is Pre-TB. 2. The harpazo is simultaneous with the resurrection of the dead 3. The harpazo is our blessed hope These things are all wrong and they are consistently preached in churches and...
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    Where will you spend eternity?

    I’m not sure what you mean by first heaven and for the rest hell. There are no resurrected people in Ch 4. Christ isn’t even there when John views the entire throne room. There are souls seen in Ch. 6 as a symbol. Ch. 7 also describes over-comers, but the symbolism in that event respects the...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    Well, that's not true at all. I am here because I enjoy eschatology and conversing with other like minds. I'm glad you read the Bible. Many self-professed believers do not. I think that's wonderful and I'm sure it has caused you to grow. I do not deny any context my friend. I had posted...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    I try to portray Jesus, but like many I have mistakes. We are to help each other when a brother falls. Me "policing" your character is for your good. Are we to let each other do things that are unholy? The NT is littered with scripture explaining this. Shouldn't we care for one another and...
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    The Rapture is Post-trib

    If that was true, that was not my intention and I apologize. My intention was for my defense because you brought a contributor into the conversation. I have asked you repeatedly to be respectful. Can you do this? I would like to have a conversation without comments like "you're deflecting, you...
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    I suspect that the "Great White Throne Judgment" as described in Revelation is only imagery rather than an event

    I believe the context does not mean to die = go immediately to heaven. “I’d rather….be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord”. Wouldn’t we all?