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To be predestined to be conformed to His Son has no predestination of a person to be a believer. One must first become a believer, be in union with Christ before the Holy Spirit works with a believer to become like Christ. This was the whole purpose of man's creation in God's Image. It was what...

If a person is predestined as a believer from birth, why does God need to regenerate or draw him?

Your opinion. Where has it been wrong? Of course, that is very rational of you. Man always has more authority over scripture than the Holy Spirit who gave it to the Apostles. There are thousands with the modern day genre of Christianity that have all developed their own personal religion...

Absolutely, but by whose interpretation. A man's or the Church. It is stated historically by the Church. So you don't believe in the Nicene Creed, I thought that this was one of the guides for this forum? Quite the contrary. Christ had two natures, Divine and Human. His Human nature has...

Luke is quoting the Psalms here. The Hebrew word is supervisor. Acts was written by Luke and written about 70-72 AD. By that time the officer of a Church was known as bishop, though Paul also uses the word presbyter (overseer). They were being used interchangably in the early Church. So its a...

You have some facts correct but essentially verified the existence of the Eastern Orthodox Church from the beginning. Peter never was a bishop, no apostle was ever a bishop. Evodius was the first bishop of Antioch 53-68 and Ignatius 68-107. You are correct which I had indicated, that the...

As all groups, churches want to claim some historical relevance. Only the Orthodox Church has a continuous line of bishops from the early Churches including Jerusalem, Antioch, even Rome which broke off more or less officially after the Council of Trent. All of those groups you listed are...

We differ on several essentials of Christianity. I hold to the historical Orthodox faith that was given to us 2000 years ago. On the topic we were discussing, among the very large volume of evidence, two books would be helpful to you. On The Incarnation, by St Athanasius and The Ancestral Sin...

So, for three days the Trinity did not exist. The Son was separated from the from the Father? You have a spiritual death, so how does one have a spiritual resurrection. Where in scripture do you find texts that support this idea of a spiritual death of Jesus. The texts I used earlier have...

In ancient texts. You can use the simplier word, repeat, renew. Or the word scripture uses, reconcile the world, Why the addition of words to scripture? What does this even mean, spiritual death? How did Christ die a spiritual death? How are spiritual dead people raised from that spiritual...

Job has nothing to do with it. Heb 2:14-15. Clearly, it states Christ assumed our human nature, became like one of us, so that He could defeat the one who has the power over death. Because He created Adam in His own Image and likeness. He created Adam with an independent will from His own. Man...

Why would you come to that conclusion?

I agree with that. But the fact is that we do not sin as did Adam. We sin because of our now fallen nature which Adam did not have. This phenomenon is explained in I Cor 15:56. This is where your theology begins to be inconsistent with scripture, God did not create death. Satan had the power...

From a theological point of view no human being is born a sinner. Man does not inherit Adam's sin or guilt but the consequence of that sin which was death, dust to dust. What man inherits is mortality. Able to die. Rom 5:12 attest to this fact. Christ assumed this same human nature that...

Never stated it was a groupie thing. It is a drop of blood that redeemed the world. Christ reconciled the world. Made the world and mankind specifically right with God. That is atonement. The Atonement was to God. Scripture NEVER uses the word atonement in relation to man's response. The...

Scripture disagrees with you. Atonement is not for individuals. If it was, then we would not have needed Christ. We could be our own sacrifice, or expiate or atone for our sins. Where do you read that in scripture. The Atonement of Christ makes justification by faith possible. Atonement means...

I explained that in the earlier post. But...God did not abolish death in this life. He did not abolish sin either. It becomes a test of faithfulness in this dispensation. Death was permanent under Adam. You mother, if Christ was not promised and never came would cease to exist. There is no...

The most important and primary purpose of the atonement is for Christ to overcome death. Death destroyed His creation. His death and resurrection recapitulated the created order.Without overcoming death there is no eternal existence. There would be no need for either heaven or hell. The...

Propitiation is part of the atonement. Christ accomplished two things in His atonement. Overcame death, and propitiated for sin, made a sacrifice. This atonement is to God. Christ was redeeming, reconciling this world to God. So by your definition, if atonement means removal of sin. then whose...

It starts with the fall of man. Adam was created to be in union with God. He was to work with God in this created universe to bring both himself and creation back to God as a living sacrifice. To grow to spiritual maturity and attain immortal life. He was created with a will independent of God...