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I do understand that what you have quoted can and has been interpreted to be future. However, Peter was quoting Joel who did prophecy of the future, and yet Peter announced the prophecy as having begun by the evidence of what was experienced that very day. Which, indeed, does not explain all of...

:clapping: You've been hearing! pryw

As long as you take that attitude, you remain under the dim view. On the contrary, it is not for me to "speak in a way people understand", but that people should yield to the need of "the renewing of your mind" (Romans 12:2). Meanwhile, No...all do not see through the "same glass as all...

The specific "lie" spoken of and reported by Paul, was not believing what Jesus said and promise of the timing of His return, and then alternatively teaching a false doctrine of fulfillment in the distant future. However, what Jesus actually said (speaking to those of that day and referring to...

Yes, to one life, and anther death. Each of which comes when Jesus comes/returns. But regarding those who receive eternal life, we should know that the time and return of Jesus is the time of our passing from death to life, and also of being born again of the spirit of God, for it is Him who...

I get that and concur. But that simply is not the point I was making about the total disregard for what Jesus actually said about the day and hour of His return. Which is the intended topic of this thread. Even so, I have heard you and appreciate your input. I see your point as the consequence...

Like James, Romans 10:9 is Paul's "works" statement, expressing the idea that one who believes will openly confess. Which is a form of evidence, if not for others, for one's own conviction--which God does not require or need. But men on the other hand, may need to walk it out, as if taking a new...

If one "believes" they'll have a pizza, it does not mean they had a pizza. The correct order is: We are first drawn by God, then we believe, then we are born again at a "day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only" (Matthew 24:36).

Sorry, I was referring to what Paul said to and of some of the Thessalonians of that time during the early church, as showing that those who are born again, whom Christ had come into, would indeed know the day and the hour because He was coming/returning into them, that very hour: But you...

So be it. So shall it be written of you.

What is wrong...was and is the total disregard and unbelief, that He would actually return "shortly" (Revelation 1:1 and 22:6). Which was the predictable response of natural men of flesh and blood, that then began to explain that truth from Jesus away, developing their own false and...

Your organic attempt at explaining away world wide "confusion"--which I only brought up to help you transition from thinking only in the ways of natural men of flesh and blood, is obviously a problem even here and now among we two, self evident, even speaking the same language. Of which God did...

And you think you would recognize what is clearly stated after all this time seeing all as through a glass dimly? How was that--was that clear enough for you? On the contrary, you would most likely think it gibberish and reject it.

Unfortunately the lie told of and reported by Paul, has caused many to believe that day would only be in the distant future. But as you quoted, he told those of that time, that the time was "this day." Even so, many are under delusion even to this day.

Certainly there are local and lessor contexts made manifest as a witness pointing to the greater context of Jesus's return (second coming), just as there were of His first advent. However, those that are a sign are not the actual substance of that which is greater and eternal. But thank you--it...

For the record (of you rejection of the truth, and blaspheme against the Spirit).

Here again you confirm your erroneous position, as God clearly stated His "confusion" was to "all." But again I will offer correction - those who have an ear to hear, let them hear: The original language in Genesis 11:7 is "confound" or "confuse": The KJV translates Strong's H1101 in the...

"Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.” So the Lord scattered them abroad from there over the face of all the earth, and they ceased building the city. Therefore its name is called Babel, because there the Lord confused the...

True--but because "the words are spirit" just as Christ said, the full and complete revelation of God--as it is written is not fully revealed until the seventh angel is about to sound (Revelation 10:7). This is that time.

That is not what is written...nor is it true.