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  1. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    Indeed. John 10:27 NIV My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. [
  2. St. SteVen

    Did Jesus say that adultery is grounds for divorce? - Nope.

    Do you not see the contradiction? [
  3. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    Why two falls? One for each realm. The fall in the spiritual realm preceded the fall in the physical realm. In the Age of Restoration, all of that will be addressed. Starting with those from the physical realm. Romans 2:14-16 NIV (Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by...
  4. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    I was thinking about our conversation yesterday when it occurred to me that pealing away the assumptions (second chance, for instance) away from the Damnationist scriptures makes them support Universalism. This scripture provides no hope for the condemned, unless you believe in God's mercy for...
  5. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    Well said. Welcome to the forum. [
  6. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    The fall of humankind. (the transgression of A&E) Romans 5:12-14 NIV Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned— 13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not...
  7. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    Wouldn't that prove the devil's accusations were true? [
  8. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    Caution. I contend that Annihilation is the gateway drug to full-blown Universalism. - LOL [
  9. St. SteVen

    Jesus is the way, but how many ways are there to Jesus?

    What does that mean? Galatians 3:23-25 NIV Before the coming of this faith,[a] we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith...
  10. St. SteVen

    Jesus is the way, but how many ways are there to Jesus?

    I showed you that your defense was off the mark. Don't you want to know how I arrived at my conclusion? There are tons of examples that Jesus gave us. And that the Apostle Paul confirmed. The unforgivable sin is to attribute the work of God to the devil...
  11. St. SteVen

    Jesus is the way, but how many ways are there to Jesus?

    Thanks. The point is that the Father is pursuing people of other religions even through their own scriptures. Not to say that those religions are THE way, but that Father can use anything. [
  12. St. SteVen

    Jesus is the way, but how many ways are there to Jesus?

    That's true. Did you view the videos in post #11? [
  13. St. SteVen

    Jesus is the way, but how many ways are there to Jesus?

    Say what? How can I say, "Nope."? Because it is a COMMON misquote. What did Jesus actually say? The misquote above stops short of the full statement, which completely changes the meaning. It wasn't "the law" that Jesus did not come to abolish. It was "the Law or the Prophets". So, the books...
  14. St. SteVen

    Jesus is the way, but how many ways are there to Jesus?

    Interesting how a difference of opinion suddenly makes the other in league with the devil. What's up with that? [
  15. St. SteVen

    Jesus is the way, but how many ways are there to Jesus?

    It wasn't the legal content (the law) that Jesus came to preserve, but the prophetic content. John 1:17 NIV For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Galatians 2:21 NIV I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through...
  16. St. SteVen

    Jesus is the way, but how many ways are there to Jesus?

    How do you destroy a prophet? Jesus explained what He meant in the time here after His resurrection from the Dead. It was NOT the law itself, but the BOOKS of "the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms” that He came to fulfill prophetically. Luke 24:44 NIV He said to them, “This is what...
  17. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    My short answer would be; No, I don't think so. That's an interesting question though. The angels he created, the sons of God (gods/elohim) were like Him. But it seems He wanted a representation in the physical creation as well. [
  18. St. SteVen

    Is your faith your own? - Is "the Faith" prescribed by a human institution?

    My point stands. St. SteVen said: I find it interesting that over a difference of opinion, the other gets accused of having NEVER read the Bible. What's up with that? [
  19. St. SteVen

    Where did the Bible come from? - Shot out of a canon

    I would say that God's plan for humankind is not so self-serving. I call it the ultimate triumph of grace. Jesus taught us to love our enemies. What would His ultimate expression of that look like? Yes, unfortunately, the scriptures are contradictory concerning the "final judgement". But you...