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    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Yes, there is overwhelming evidence for the Gog/Magog event in Ezekiel 38-39 to be the events in Esther. I was skeptical at first but after looking into it I saw just how difficult and problematic it is to place that in the future, even though Revelation 20 has a Gog/Magog event (which I think...
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    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Well that argument is valid because Esther does describe the events that show Ezekiel 38-39 were fulfilled prior to Pentecost.
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    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    I’m asking you. The first plagues mentioned in the Bible are the plagues in Genesis 12:7. Were these plagues spiritual or literal? If they were literal then that would agree with the idea that first comes the natural then the spiritual. We’ll get to the Exodus plagues next, I’m thinking you’ll...
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    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Ezekiel 39:29Neither will I hide my face any more from them: for I have poured out my spirit upon the house of Israel, saith the Lord GOD. God says the next redemptive event after the events of Ezekiel 38-39 is the pouring out of the Holy Spirit on the house of Israel. According to Peter...
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    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Genesis 12:17 And the LORD plagued Pharaoh and his house with great plagues because of Sarai Abram's wife.
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    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Ok, do you also believe that the plagues in Genesis are one and the same as the plagues in Revelation?
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    Revelation 20:6 "The First Resurrection" Explained

    Matthew 27:52-53 doesn’t give much information on exactly who those individuals were that came out of the graves. We know they were “saints” and they went into the holy city and appeared unto many. I’m trying to get the verses we are discussing to all be true and agree, including the timing of...
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    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    I don’t follow Charles Russel or the JW’s belief ether. I attended a non-denominational congregation which allows for various beliefs on subjects that aren’t clearly spelled out in the Bible. I don’t actually argue one way or the other about Michael being Christ. I think it’s a possibility but...
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    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    No, I don’t follow the teachings of Ellen G White. I’m not SDA.
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    Revelation 20:6 "The First Resurrection" Explained

    Ok, I do because in both verses Michael is a key figure. If you choose to ignore that then fine, whatever. Matthew 27:52-53 uses the word “saints”. In Deuteronomy 33:1-3 Moses blessed the children of Israel, all of them, and called them collectively saints. Some of the children of Israel...
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    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Genesis 49:1And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last<319> days. Deuteronomy 31:29For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you...
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    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    The Jews just don’t recognize the victory is recorded in Esther.
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    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Often in the Old Testament the prophets spoke of God’s wrath in hyperbolic, symbolic language. One great example is Micah 1. Behold, Yahweh is coming out of His place and will come down and tread upon the high places of the earth. The mountains will melt under Him, and the valleys will split...
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    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. It’s entirely possible that understanding the Gog/Magog event as being physically fulfilled in the past is knowledge being increased.
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    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    Hold on a minute, I’m not arguing against the Revelation 20 Gog/Magog event being spiritual in nature, I’m saying the Ezekiel 38-39 Gog/Magog event was a literal historical event. 1 Corinthians 15:46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that...
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    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    The Jews don’t recognize Jesus as the Messiah, so why should we trust their view on Ezekiel 38-39?
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    Revelation 20:6 "The First Resurrection" Explained

    Well give us an explanation for how Michael didn’t “stand up” in Revelation 12. <5975> amad Usage: The Hebrew verb "amad" primarily means "to stand" in a physical sense, but it extends to various contexts, including standing firm, enduring, or taking a position. It can imply a literal...
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    Revelation chapter 20 - Gog and Magog

    An argument for Ezekiel describing an ancient battle that was fought with ancient weapons. Gog’s army would attack on horseback, carrying swords, war clubs and spears. In verses 5-7, Ezekiel identifies Gog’s allies as Persia, Cush, Put, Gomer, Beth-Togarmah. The nations that fought with...
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    Revelation 20:6 "The First Resurrection" Explained

    You’re right, no resurrection is recorded in Revelation 12:7-13, but both Daniel 12 and Revelation 12 have to be true concerning Michael. There is an interpretation that has all things true and correct. I think the problem is that it’s easier to ignore the issue of Michael standing up than it...
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    Revelation 20:6 "The First Resurrection" Explained

    If I said when the sun goes down, I will call you. You would expect that from the time I made that statement, at the next time the sun went down, I would give you a call, right? Even though the sun goes down every day. Let’s say we apply the principle that when something is prophesied to take...