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  1. Timtofly

    There are 2 tribulation periods, the “first” is to the Jews

    That time is the end of Daniel's 70 weeks, not time itself. Did you not see the qualifier: 7 "But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets." The 70 weeks deal directly...
  2. Timtofly

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    Satan is the one who will sit. Satan is not omnipresent, able to sit in every one. Why are you making Satan out to already be God? Sounds like Satan has you deceived already? Have you met Satan and personally talked with him? Satan will not sit in any temple of any kind until after the...
  3. Timtofly

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    No, that is your broken record imagination playing tricks on reality.
  4. Timtofly

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    Great as in length, not the time of Jacob's trouble that is short and not like any other. Many have been martyred. You don't think their troubles have been great? You may have it easy. Many do not. The tribulation of "those days" is just general trouble, and not even persecution...
  5. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    Your anology is worse than the other one. Has God ever removed the power from the soul? You seem to think God does, except there is no verse that states that fact. God always sustains the soul even in the LOF, as God also sustains the LOF. The LOF is not a God that exists besides God...
  6. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    Was Adam already dead, before he disobeyed God?
  7. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    Are you saying we don't exist, because we are not God? Obviously you would prefer not to exist.
  8. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    The word soul comes from the Bible. Not sure why you introduce a human argument into Scripture itself. The soul puts on a different body, that is all there is to it. You are dead in your current body. To pass from death, the soul leaves the body of death and puts on the physical body of...
  9. Timtofly

    Who, or what, is the dreaded bogey man of prophecy?

    You have to accept the gift of salvation. God does not make that choice for you, nor against you.
  10. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Seems you left out the NT mentions of the same Day of the Lord: 2 Peter 3:8-10 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the...
  11. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Yet you keep stating Jesus was made alive, "becoming the firstfruits". You keep saying Jesus is one of the fruits made alive.
  12. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    You are wrong in your assessment here. The 7 Thunders happen in the same period of time just after the 6th Trumpet. The final harvest starts with the 1st Trumpet and ends at the 7th when victory is declared. That would include the 7 Thunders even though we are not told what they entail. This...
  13. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Exactly, the Day of the Lord is not pleasant for the wicked. Does not mean it will not last for a thousand years. Amil deny it will be a thousand years, why do you? Someone brought Adam up. Adam's disobedience is the reason for punishment on the earth, and the curse of sin and death...
  14. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    It is not all over. Jesus is the 7th Kingdom at the 7th Trumpet. Was the 8th Kingdom before the 7th Kingdom? If there is an 8th kingdom that last for 42 months, the 7th Trumpet will keep sounding until the battle of Armageddon, and only then it will be over. It is not over the first note...
  15. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Amils are always making Scripture say what they want it to say, instead of the straightforward written words. Are you still dead? Did you not experience the second birth? Why do you claim those with eternal life are still called "the dead"? Why are you still in your grave? Have you not...
  16. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    You are taking Revelation 20 out of context. You should stop doing that yourself.
  17. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    These are not dead people. These are humans from out of every nation at the Second Coming. They are Israelites gathered out of all nations. They have not physically died. There are no nations after physical death. Try not to let the facts get in the way, of your imagined eschatology...
  18. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    So do Amil. They interpret the entire Bible through the lense of there not being a future Day of the Lord.
  19. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Because pagan humans use that term "immortal", and that word is only found once in Scripture. The verse is not describing humans. 1 Timothy 1:17 Weird how you say humans are not the firstfruits in this verse: "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every...
  20. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    There is a third group. You are not born a believer at physical birth. You have to deny God to be eternally lost. The third group are those undecided sitting on the proverbial fence. There are some who are neither for Jesus, nor against Jesus. They have never been introduced to Jesus to...