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  1. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Not found in Scripture once. You demand the millennium be found other places than Revelation 20, yet the term "immortal body" is not found one time in Scripture.
  2. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Do you read Matthew 24 chronologically? Why? Why not change that chapter as well?
  3. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The tribulation is only about Israel. They are the 10 virgins, not the church. The sheep and goats are only about Israel, not the judgment of saved and lost. You have replaced Israel in Matthew 25 and have inserted the church into a location and time the church will not even be on the...
  4. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    No. That is the number of Adamkind. The verse says "of a man". That is all of humankind from Adam.
  5. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    All you are saying is Jesus needed redemption, because that was the point of the topic and subject. You deny Paul is talking about being made alive: 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made...
  6. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Natural does not mean physical. Natural means "of Adam". Spiritual in this case means "of God". There is no such thing as a physical body made up of "spirit", nor an immortal body. This spirit body, and immortal body are pagan, human constructs, not found in Scripture. Physical is not...
  7. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Your interpretation is still wrong. In Matthew 27, we see the OT redeemed came out of Abraham's bosom, all of them, then, even though many were seen in Jerusalem. So not all were seen in Jerusalem, but only those buried there. So they all ascended like the church will ascend at the Second...
  8. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    You offered no Scripture either. Matthew 13 tells us about the final harvest of the 7 Thunders. Jesus and the angels will be present on the earth.
  9. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    The Day of the Lord is the events that last 1,000 years after the Second Coming. The Day of the Lord that has not happened yet. You said the length of time is smack dab in the middle of Adam's punishment. There was a Day of the Lord before Adam was placed in the Garden of Eden, and 6,000...
  10. Timtofly

    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Except for the fact that 42 months later, after Satan's empire, the 7 vials are poured out. What are they called? "And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth." This comes after Revelation 13.
  11. Timtofly

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    The reign of Christ is not the length of the thousand years. That length is how long those beheaded, are given physical bodies and reign on the earth, with Christ. That reign ends at the NHNE. But the thousand years stop when Satan is loosed. They are still reigning after that thousand...
  12. Timtofly

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    Your body is called mortal. That is mumbo jumbo for death. You are physically dead already. It has the Holy Spirit living in it and is still dead. Nothing can change the fact your dead body is going to remain dead and return to dust. Your soul will not have physical life until it leaves...
  13. Timtofly

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead. Matthew 8:28 Human tradition without guidance from Scripture? People do it today for a memorial. But it is just the dead burying the dead.
  14. Timtofly

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    The point is that is not the default position of life. Yes a few humans have allowed Satan to take control of their life. But that is not normal, and not what that verse is saying about humanity in general. King Saul allowed the spirit of Satan to enter him. King Saul sought out the spirit...
  15. Timtofly

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    So it was absurd of God to place Adam in a Garden that was peaceful and relaxed for thousands of square miles so he could raise a family of over 50 generations for thousands of years? Where no one would ever die?
  16. Timtofly

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    May as well say no generation from Adam until the Second Coming shall pass away, no?
  17. Timtofly

    The Resurrection = the Commencement of the millennium

    If people would just stop calling Luke 21 the Olivet Discourse, that would clear up some issues. There is nothing in that chapter to place what Jesus said, as being on the mount of Olives. Jesus was speaking in the Temple to all the Jews who were there that day. That was a public answer to...
  18. Timtofly

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    You are so wrong. Paul did know that all the OT were in Paradise. There is no interim period, after the Cross. Lazarus experienced the last time spent waiting, having only 4 days in the valley of the shadow of death. Jesus explained all that in the account you call a parable. Jesus...
  19. Timtofly

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    How would you know I don't? Obviously non existence is not crying out in your interpretation. They would have to even exist first, which you keep insisting they cannot exist. Your interpretation is wrong, merely on that point alone. Then you equate the Holy Spirit as your own spirit...
  20. Timtofly

    When was the A.O.D fulfilled?

    So this has nothing to do with the Second Coming, but an AoD in 66AD: “Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:” Matthew 24:29 Did...