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So, we go to heaven based on our belief, correct?

Ah, so the moment you can't answer a question, you claim you're "Not playing this game" and retreat back to your baseless and factless accusations.

Not playing my game.... But of course you start a thread calling us a cult, so we all have to play yours. You may be the god of your salvation, but that power does not translate into the reality. You want answers, you have to answer questions. It's called actually having a discussion.

So Christ died for every sin of every man. Ok, so then why do some go to heaven, and others do not?

A simple yes or no would suffice. Did Christ die for every sin of every man?

Your saying God couldn't save everyone? No it is not arbitrary; It is because it brings Him the maximum glory. Are you saying that Jesus died for every sin of every man?

So, you claim that God accepts people because He sees that they will accept Him.... my question is how is this any better? We say we are all created equally condemned, but you say that God only creates some with the capacity to accept. Did God not give some the 'smarts' and not others? is this...

..... Just for fun..... trying to lighten the mood

.... Maybe you could try addressing a question in an understandable manner? What exactly is it you are trying to say?

This has to do.... what with what Brother Preacher4Truth said?

Indeedeth Brothereth. Ameneth indeedeth. eth.

Thous speakest truth, brother.

But is it a sin to be 'in Adam'? Is this in and of itself a sin? You can repeat that over and over, but is it a sin to be 'in Adam' and not 'in Christ'? All sins have been paid, so if it IS a sin then it was paid for, and if it is NOT a sin then there is no penalty. Either way, the ends to your...

But you said being out of Christ is not a sin. There can be no penalty for something if it is not a sin. The penalty you are placing one being in a certain location makes no sense, because you yourself stated the being "in christ' or not is not a sin Is God going to punish people for something...

Ok, so Jesus [since he died for all sins of all men] died for this sin as well, and therefore all are in Heaven. And I asked "Is it a sin to remain "outside of Christ" and "In Adam." You said no. If it is not a sin, then there is no penalty for NOT being in Christ. And since there is no...

So, is it a sin to remain in Adam, and not be in Christ?

Oh, so it is not a sin, therefore there is no penalty for NOT being 'in that location'. And if there is no penalty, and all of our sins are forgiven, everyone is going to heaven!

But is being in Adam itself a sin?

The question is; is being 'Out of Christ' and being 'In Adam' a sin?

That cannot be true. If that is a sin, then Jesus blood covered that sin as well, and they are saved. Is refusal of Christ a sin?