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  1. Mjh29

    Calvinism is a Cult

    My friend, please flea Finney. Here are some of his quotes that show he did not believe in the efficacy of Christ's blood: 1. “Several theologians have held that regeneration is the work of the Holy Spirit alone … but I might just as lawfully insist that it is the work of man alone.” – Charles...
  2. Mjh29

    Thoughts on Charles Finney

    Romans 3:26 ESV / 4 helpful votes It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. Romans 3:25 ESV / 4 helpful votes Whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show...
  3. Mjh29

    Thoughts on Charles Finney

    Yes, but we cannot use this as an excuse to ignore that while God is indeed love, He is also justice and wrath. Wrath of God Romans 1:18 ESV / 402 helpful votes For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness...
  4. Mjh29

    Thoughts on Charles Finney

    Finney was not speaking of temptation. He clearly said that he can be "sore with hungry appetites, and not sin." Christ claims that lust [which is not a direct action] is still a sin. Finney contradicted Scriptures. Being tempted to do something and actually thinking or feeling these desires are...
  5. Mjh29

    Thoughts on Charles Finney

    My purpose is simply to show that I am not the only one that believes that Charles Finney was preaching a false gospel. I was told that I didn't like Finney because of my "doctrinal standpoint" ie because I', a "Crazy Calvinist." When in reality, many non-reformed people know the heresies of...
  6. Mjh29

    Calvinism is a Cult

    No, he does not. He emphasizes that man needs to attain perfection on earth to save himself, and that Christ's blood did not attain salvation for anyone.
  7. Mjh29

    Calvinism is a Cult

    the problem is blindness. You have yet to explain to me the problem with the Scriptures I used to refute your claims. You have not explained why I am wrong in using the verses I did to refute your misinterpretations, therefore the problem is either Scriptures or you, and I believe the Scriptures...
  8. Mjh29

    Thoughts on Charles Finney

    In another thread, we began to discuss one Charles Finney, who in my book and many others it a complete heretic. Now, I do not throw this term around lightly; He denied some of the foundational truths or Scripture, saying things such as Christ's Blood didn't actually save anyone, and that man...
  9. Mjh29

    Calvinism is a Cult

    Though, I would rather start a separate thread about Charles Finney, and stick to the discussion at hand. You have all said you have given us verses, and we "just ignore them". All of the verses @justbyfaith gave, I showed where the context contradicted him. That is not ignoring; that is refuting
  10. Mjh29

    Calvinism is a Cult

    Charles Finney denied that Jesus actually saved anyone on the Cross, and openly admitted that it was the Sinner's power that regenerated. It is not a doctrinal stance thing; Christians in general know Charles Finney as a heretic.
  11. Mjh29

    Calvinism is a Cult

    I hardly find warping the word of God to be a laughing matter, but seeing how you and others treat it as a pick and choose verse buffet, your attitude towards it hardly surprises me. No, not ignored. I simply showed where [usually in the same chapter], the verses you have pulled out of...
  12. Mjh29

    Calvinism is a Cult

    Quotes from Charles Finney: assumes that the atonement was a literal payment of a debt, which we have seen does not consist with the nature of the atonement ... It is true, that the atonement, of itself, does not secure the salvation of any one" -Charles G. Finney (Systematic Theology p.217)...
  13. Mjh29

    Calvinism is a Cult

    And it is worth note that though they claim we distort Scripture, they can never really give us a reason how, unless they are taking Scriptures out of context.
  14. Mjh29

    Calvinism is a Cult

    How dare we say that people don't save themselves! How dare we give God all the glory. Who's distorting what? You try and make salvation no more than man making a correct decision, and make him the entire focus of the book rather than God. This doesn't sound like the gospel message to me. You...
  15. Mjh29

    Calvinism is a Cult

    And the Holy Truth of Scripture is against you, but you refuse to bow to it, so I thought perhaps showing you that even apart from Scripture your logic is flawed, much less including it in the argument. So, I take this response as "I have no answer"? How do you respond? Seeing the definition of...
  16. Mjh29

    Calvinism is a Cult

    A closer look; OH! You mean I need my Arminian glasses? Ok, let's try that: Ok. Now I see it. All joking aside, the following part of the verse says that it is not of works. It is simply further describe the fact that faith is a gift from God because it is not a work. This says nothing about...
  17. Mjh29

    Calvinism is a Cult

    Before I begin taking this apart bit by bit, I would first like to point out that, again, all you have to rely on is the same misinterpreted verse and a whole bunch of feelings. Nothing has changed. Your view isn't really supported by Scripture; you are trying to tell me how you feel about it...
  18. Mjh29

    Calvinism is a Cult

    And back to repeating the same thing. We already dealt with this. Please, before you continue repeating this over and over like a broken record... please go through and actually explain your interpretation of some of the verses we have supplied. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved...