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No, John certainly does not contradict himself... <smile> No, not quite; we who are born again and thus in Christ "share in the first resurrection" (Revelation 20:4-6), which is an aggregate or cumulative description of all believers being born again of the Spirit and raised in Christ...

Hmmm. Well, I think you are conflating a couple of very different things here. I pointed out what John says (in 1 John 2:19) regarding those who fall away, or "go out from us"... He says: "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued...

No. <smile> Well, it does in the sense that the second ~ physical ~ resurrection, because of the occurrence of the first resurrection ~ and spiritual and physical (with Jesus in the New Heaven and New Earth)... exemption from the second death ~ is ensured and certain. <smile> Well, His...

SOTM, can you put all these thoughts into a very small nutshell and state your point (or points...) with all this? :) Grace and peace to you.

In... your... "humble" opinion. <smile> You're the one who originally brought up defining certain things, and said you had them all correct ~ without actually defining anything ~ Ronald. Look back through the record and bring some things up if you want. Again: In... your... "humble"...

Okay, fair enough, so let's talk about some of the terms, which you brought up, so, you first. <smile> But you understand them in a certain way, which may or may not be correct. Ah, well, I would say the exact same thing, but you and I disagree, so either one or both of us is wrong; we cannot...

It does not. Or, at least far, far less than it should. <smile> Nobody's saying what you think "doesn't make sense," really, Ronald. But regarding just about anything, it is very possible for something to make sense and but still be... very wrong. Grace and peace to you. Not true at all...

I'm not accusing you of anything, Ronald. All I said was, yes, as you yourself define these terms, you understand them. Which, by definition, is circular reasoning. It is what it is. It's not irrelevant at all, nor am I mistaken regarding your shouting and arguing. Your direct quote was ~...

The only question to me is whether at the time of Noah's flood the continents were actually situated on the globe in the same locations as they are today (or at least close...). The idea of one continent ~ Pangaea ~ is generally accepted, and in my view, it is possible that this was the state...

Yes, as you define them, you understand them. That's circular... <smile> ...but okay. I don't think you're ignorant, Ronald. <smile> You know, it's fine to discuss these things, but I think there's absolutely no justification for shouting at each other or really arguing. Don't you? Not on...

Yes, from heaven. What "ruling with a rod of iron" means would probably be a point of contention between us. And, you don't understand ~ or you may; if you do, you reject ~ the idea of the now and the not yet. Hmmm, well "tolerates" and/or "winks" or anything like that is quite ridiculous; I...

These two sentences are contradictory to each other, Ronald. Let me break this down... So yeah... Ronald, I'm glad (overjoyed, really) that you agree that Jesus is King now, but what you say after that, that "Jesus's kingdom is not on earth today," is a direct contradiction of what you agreed...

Jesus, Who is seated at the right hand of the Father, certainly does these things now. Right. But their lack of adherence does not lessen the fact that Jesus is King now. As He said, His Kingdom is not of this world. Right, and then in person, not merely (although it is certainly no mere...

<smile> What you say here, Ronald, is quite similar in concept, actually, to what the Jews thought of the regarding the Messiah, God's Christ, even in Jesus's day. They thought the Messiah would be a great political and military leader who would conquer all their oppressors. Non-Messianic...

I'm... painfully aware of that. <smile> Ronald, I know nothing will convince you of this (at least for now), but you and I are living in the millennial kingdom ~ as everyone has been since Jesus came, was crucified, and resurrected, and since Pentecost. One day, we will all be living in the...

Hmmm, well in the "Greater" context, you kinda just said the same thing twice. :) Except it's not just for Gentiles. :) Do you really think that Jews and Gentiles will be separated in eternity, either ethnically or physically? <chuckles> You're surely not alone in thinking as you do...

No. Grace and peace to you.

LOL! I did, Ronald. In short, the true Promised Land is the whole earth (Matthew 5;5), and... wow, is Jesus not the greater David, the true forever-King of Israel? Hmmm, I don't completely disagree; I like your code-of-justice clarification, that a punishment should fit the crime, but it's...

Right, but this "lesser" covenant ~ lesser in the sense of the immediate fulfillment when Moses (actually God, by pillar of cloud by day and fire by night) led the Isrealites through the desert to the promised land in Exodus ~ pointed to the "greater" covenant ~ greater in the sense of the true...

I do; no need. I was very clear in my previous post (743). It is. As I said above, the fact that John says there is a “Lord’s day” in the new covenant shows there is a day set apart in a unique way for the Lord. Paul writes in Colossians 2 about the Sabbath being past and shows that the old...