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  1. PinSeeker

    There is only one true church

    Goodness gracious. :) Yes, Romans 9 ~ really 9-11 ~ is about God's purpose of election. And one very specific point Paul makes about God's purpose of election is that it does not depend on man's willing or anything he/she may or may not do. He says, "it depends not on human will or...
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    Oops, the Deacon's Son is Gay

    "Mete out"... Sorry; not to correct you, but just chalk it up to... oh, anal retentiveness or something... :) But okay, fair enough. I say the punishment is so bad that degrees are not necessary. Total darkness, total aloneness, no rest, from God absolutely no grace and only judgment, utter...
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    Oops, the Deacon's Son is Gay

    Sure. You're preaching to the choir; you're talking to a well-versed, five-point Calvinist, here. :) You're straying into other topics, though. I have not said otherwise. Sure. Sure. Yeah, disagree. All we really know, because Scripture is very clear on these things, is: the wicked will...
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    Oops, the Deacon's Son is Gay

    Disagree. Certainly there are sins that are more heinous than others, but the penalty for sin, regardless of the heinousness, is death. Agree. Actually, we were all in this rebellion, but some of us have been the recipients of God's mercy and compassion (according to His will). Sin ~ without...
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    There is only one true church

    ...back into soteriological matters... Okay... Well, the Greek word used there is θέλει (root θέλω), which can mean ~ depending on the context of course ~ 'will,' 'wish,' or 'desire.' And in the context of Paul's words in that particular passage (1 Timothy 2:4), the best translation is...
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    Oops, the Deacon's Son is Gay

    God hates all sin. Ohhhhh... yes, he did... There are instances in the Bible where God has treated all kinds of sin with equal harshness. Adam and Eve were cast out of Eden ~ and died that very day, as God told Adam they would in Genesis 2:17, when they partook of the forbidden tree. Not a...
  7. PinSeeker

    There is only one true church

    The church I go to, certainly. And any other Gospel-preaching church out there, those that preach Him and Him crucified, and worship in Spirit and truth. Right, the difference of opinion (as I said) between us, BOL, is what is meant by "traditions" there. No "dancing"... I have been very...
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    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Thank you, Rebuilder454. They did. Along with several other passages... especially in John's gospel, which, as John himself says, was "written so that (we) may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing (we) may have life in His name" [John 20:31]. And John, and...
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    There is only one true church

    RedFan said: Is apostolic tradition a valid source of truth? Absolutely! Absolutely. But I would say "apostolic tradition" only as reflected in Scripture (God's Word). Hey, anybody ~ even the Pope and/or the Catholic Church <smile> ~ can say/write true things... At least from time to...
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    There is only one true church

    No... <chuckles> The Roman Catholic Church's claim of exclusivity is historical, for sure, but history is chock-full of... bad things... <smile> I well understand your opinion. We disagree. It's okay. <smile> Wow. Why do you not? Hmmm, I see. I strongly disagree, of course, but yeah...
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    There is only one true church

    No apologies necessary, Augustin. Ah... connections... yes... <chuckles> I'm well aware of what your "connection" was and is. Again, I appreciate your opinion, but obviously strongly disagree. That you think the Mary in Matthew 27:56 is a different Mary is precisely the issue. This I agree...
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    There is only one true church

    Disagree, of course, on both counts. <smile> We discussed this; he's not there proposing or stating that anything beyond Scripture is the Word of God... or that they have taught anything beyond the Word of God. Because the types and shadows are not "indirectly connected to Jesus" but are...
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    There is only one true church

    I appreciate your... tenacity... Augustin, but that's very much incorrect. It should be helpful to include verses 53, 54, and 56 with verse 55, as it is all part of the same passage, but even verse 55 alone is sufficient: "(53) And when Jesus had finished these parables, He went away from...
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    Oops, the Deacon's Son is Gay

    Wow. So sorry to hear that, Rita. Adultery... yes, that would certainly qualify as sexual sin, as well as some other things. But beyond that, certainly a painful trial for you to have walked through. The Lord have mercy on you, my friend, and give you peace. Grace and peace to you.
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    Oops, the Deacon's Son is Gay

    Ah, no offense intended, certainly, but I say you are reading at least that one thing in Genesis 2 that far too shallowly. Marriage is a high calling; God created woman for man, brought her to him, and called her to be with him, even as one flesh, and yes, his helper. But that word 'helper,'...
  16. PinSeeker

    There is only one true church

    Hmmm, well, true, and yours also. Ah, a very Pharisaical statement... <smile> Catholicism is not the only denomination that claims exclusivity, for sure. Hmmmm... <smile> If that's how you characterize (universally) all those who are in Christ ~ which has been the case since shortly after...
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    Will the Jews build a Third Temple?

    You're not alone in thinking that. <smile> And I don't totally disagree... Yes, Jesus, the true Temple, is in heaven at present. And all we in Christ are being built together into this whole structure, this holy temple in the Lord. And Jesus will return at the end of the age, God's...
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    There is only one true church

    What do you call it when one reads out of something what is he doesn't want it to mean, Augustin? Ah, well, 'eisegesis' fits there, too, of course... the expression of an interpreter's own ideas, bias, or the like, rather than the meaning of the text. That's what you're doing, my friend. Maybe...
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    There is only one true church

    But they are mentioned in the same breath by folks in Jesus's hometown as His mother and father ~ even the very same sentence. And they're talking about them as brothers and sisters of Jesus. The same immediate family context of Joseph, Mary, Jesus, and his brothers and sisters ~ in both...
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    There is only one true church

    No, I just didn't accept your "point." I don't disagree, and never did. I know. <smile> I don't think I exlicitly... see what I did there? <smile> ...said that, but I will certainly accept that it is not, either implicitly or explicitly. The Catholic Church. Yes, I understand what you're...